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   nikkiwood | Mar 04, 2006 05:43pm | #1

   For some reason, this tool is not yet available in the US market.

   I looked at the link, and you have to take your hat off to these people for their ingenuity.

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   JJB | Mar 05, 2006 02:16am | #2

   If that was on the market today. I'd buy it tomorrow, because I'm fixing dinner tonight. That has to be the latest & greatest tool on the market. There is no doubt that the best tool Fesstool has on the market. Wish it was in the USA now. I've been making a lot of floating tenons lately with my router. {SLOW].
   Thanks for the heads up. JJBX

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   scott345 | Mar 08, 2006 04:35am | #8

   It looks like a winner to me, But I do know Festool is mucho denero.

   About the floating tenons. Anyone here try Beadlock?

   I got one of those systems for christmas. I haven't tried it yet, except for goofing together a couple of pieces of scrap. It was clean and quick.

   Anyway, like I said I really haven't used it in a project so my expeirence with it is limited. Maybe someone else knows more about this.

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   JJV | Mar 10, 2006 05:25pm | #10

   I have used Beadlock.  I bought it at a woodworking show 7 years ago, and I have used it to make a binch of different things, including some chairs that are still going strong after 5 years.  I think it's a good system-and it's cheap to boot.  You can but the router bits to make your own tenon stock and then you're set. 

   I think it would be lousy for a production shop-or even a busy one-man pro shop.  But for a hobbyist in the basement or garage, it's great.  Maybe someday I'll know a little something.

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   JJB | Mar 11, 2006 05:52am | #11

   Another guy posted $880 USD. I'll think I'll have to pass on that one. I figured it would be hi dollar, but not that much.
   JJBX

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   eddiefromAustralia | Mar 11, 2006 06:07am | #12

   JJB,

   Bear in mind that we pay more than the US for tools - Makita 3612 routers go for trade price of about AUD349 over here, approx USD260.  Hitachi routers (M12) go for about the same, Makita biscuit jointers go for AUD500 trade (USD375).

   If you look at the price differential between what you pay and what we pay, it might give you a better idea of the festool price (which is still fairly high for mine, by the way.)  [edit: price in the USA when it's released].

   As I said before, for me it's academic as I'm set up to mill loose tenons already.

   Cheers,

   eddie

   Edited 3/11/2006 2:56 am by eddiefromAustralia

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   eddiefromAustralia | Mar 13, 2006 12:39pm | #13

   JJB,

   the US agent advises that the price will be: "considerably lower than USD850, especially upon introduction... ... ... pricing not finalised yet."  In the same post (in another forum) stated possible introduction to US market in about 6 months.

   CHeers,

   eddie

   edit: I've got no commercial interest or use festool products, except for their 400# abrasive paper that fits the hole pattern in 6" random orbital sanders.  Just passing on/copying facts that were posted elsewhere.

    

    

   Edited 3/13/2006 5:42 am by eddiefromAustralia

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   mufti | Mar 05, 2006 02:56am | #3

                 I have seen it demonstrated at shows. It is expensive and does one thing only. Then you need to buy the special tenons!

                 You have to change the cutter to size a different mortice. All the extra cutters and tenons are expensive, by my standards anyway.

                 Routers and jigs are effective,  adaptable for many situations and cutters are easily available at reasonable cost. I just do not know why Festool came up with this idea!

                I have Festo sanders, router, jigsaw and circular saw- all good. 

    

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   JeffHeath | Mar 05, 2006 09:10pm | #4

   When you say expensive, what would that be.  A nicely equipped multirouter is a little over  $3000 US with the tooling for the popular m & t sizes.  I absolutely love that machine.  I can't imagine any other small machine being any better at repetetive mortices and tenons than the multirouter.

   Jeff

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   Kaleo | Mar 06, 2006 12:23pm | #5

   I live in Tasmania, Australia and I saw that festol demo yesterday. It has to be one of the greatest tools I've ever seen. It soon replace the traditional biscut joiner. It works almost like a multi-router, in the sense that it uses an osilating drill bit instead of a disc blade to cut. And it makes more of a mortise than just a slot.

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   chaseford | Mar 07, 2006 09:02pm | #6

   Would love to see a demonstration here in the USA of this tool.  If it is anything like other Festool products, I will probably spring for this system.  The deal with Festool is not that you can't accomplish the same task using another method, its that it is usually faster, cleaner and more accurate with the Festool method.  I make a lot of custom doors and cabinets, and it looks like this might speed things up a bit.  My only concern would be how strong the joint would be.

   Michael

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   Kaleo | Mar 08, 2006 12:11am | #7

   The biscuts thta are used in this system ( if you can call them that ) are more like loose tenons. They range in size and thickness. I would only imagine that the joint would be alot like any mortise and tenon joint.

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   flglide65 | Mar 10, 2006 09:41am | #9

   I searched the Web and got a price of $1207 AUD. That's ~ $ 880 USD. Pricey even for Festool.

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   rcobb | Mar 15, 2006 12:01pm | #14

   If you were in Australia Eddie you could but it just over 1000 Aus $ or 730 US