Hi All:
I will atempt to post pictures of the darkening of the QSWO with which I am building a Stickley sideboard .
I confess that I have been limping along on this project for a year on and off. What I did was to build the frame and panel ends first and , to keep track of all the pieces and to easily to dry fit the ensuing assemblies, I clamped them. The pictures show the clamps and some areas where the clamps had been for some months. It seems that something in the clamp pads is exuding an oily substance which is darkening the oak where it has been.
By the way these clamps were purchased from Harbor Freight and are otherwise decent clamps , especially at the price when on sale. Maybe there is something one could wash the clamp pads with to remove this oil, but it is already in the wood. Is there something that will take it out of the wood? I tried wiping it with mineral spirits and it didn’t seem to take it out.
If I can’t get it out , does anyone have a suggestion of how best to finish around it?
Thanks,
Bill
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The oily substance from the clamp pads is probably a plasticizer used in soft plastics to keep them supple. Common plasticizers include octyl pthalate and dibutyl pthalate, which sort of take up space between polymer molecules of the plastic but do not bind to them. Over time, especially in hot conditions, some of the plasticizer comes out. Notice how the windshield of your car or truck gets a film on it after sitting in the sun for some days? That's plasticizer cooked out of the padded dashboard.
How to get it out of oak? If it is not too deep, you should be able to sand it away. Mineral spirits is way too weak a solvent to do any good. Lacquer thinner may get to it or possibly an acetone-soaked rag held in place for some time may dissolve it. Glycol ethers like butyl Cellosolve or propylene glycol ethyl ether, both of which are used as retarding solvents for lacquers, might work.
Good luck
Thanks for the reply Bruce.
I can find lacquer thinner, but where would I look for the ether products you described?
Bill
A paint store that sells lacquers and stains to cabinet makers and the like will have retarding solvents. Even something like MIBK might work - nearly as strong as MEK and slow enough evaporating perhaps to have time to work. The worst thing may be if the plasticizer has soaked deeply into the wood, it may not be possible for solvents to drag it out again. BruceT
How about just plane old exylol or exylene? Works well removing the oils from rosewood.
Dave
Oil the whole thing.
John
Hi Neighbor:
If all else fails that is what I will do, but I'm afraid it will still leave dark spots.
Bill
MEK or Acetone are availible at any hardware store. As to the long term solution, either ditch the cheap clamps, or take off the plactic covers, or use wood spacers. I do have some not-so-cheap Jorgeson heavy duty 12" bar clamps that do that as well. Now I will not buy any jorgies.
Edit: the project looks good.
Pardon my spelling,
Mike
Make sure that your next project is beyond your skill and requires tools you don't have. You won't regret it.
Edited 8/23/2007 2:43 pm ET by mudman
The pads for Pony pipe clamps do it to bnut sanding worked for me. If I every get around to it i though I'd ditch the pads and glue on sow thick cowhide or cork.
John O'Connell - JKO Handcrafted Woodworking
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My ponys dont have pads. But adding cork or leather is a great idea.Pardon my spelling,
Mike
Make sure that your next project is beyond your skill and requires tools you don't have. You won't regret it.
Thanks everybody for the advice. There are a lot of good suggestions for the oak as well as the clamp pads.
Sorry for the delayed reply, I've been on vacation ( if one can call a week spent bucking up logs and splitting fire wood a vacation) for a week with no internet acsess .
Thanks again,
Bill
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