I didn’t see this already posted, so I apologize if I missed something.
I picked up Delta’s Universal Tenoning Jig this weekend at Lowe’s for $40. I believe it normally runs around $100. If you’re hunting one, it may not be a bad time to drop in and have a look.
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Well lets see, approx. $20 US for your plan, plus shipping. Now add the cost of the materials and the time needed to get the materials and then add the time to watch your 72 minute video and the time to actually build the jig. Sounds like a lot more than $40 to me.
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Men will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest.
~ Denis Diderot
Marti,
Don't accept all this negativity from these respondents. If you are happy with your Delta tenoning jig, then enjoy it. I appreciate your taking the time to let everyone else know.
I think you are seeing that many of us make our own tenoning jigs. It is not difficult, and it is not expensive. Others of us use hand tools to make mortise and tenon.
Me, I have the old original Delta tenoning jig. It weighs in at about 36 pounds. You can put a six foot long two by four in it at a 45 degree angle and it won't budge an iota. But then again, hardly anyone, including me, needs that kind of heft in a tenoning jig. But then again, who cares if I don't need that heft. My brother found it in a badly rusted condition, and I restored it to its original condition. It makes a nice conversation piece. It is a fantastic tenoning jig. But it is so heavy that U usually use the jig that I made. But even then, I am moving toward hand made tenons.
Life is complex and ever changing.
Be happy and proud of how you do woodworking, and don't worry if others do it differently.
Have fun.
Mel
Measure your output in smiles per board foot.
Mel, I take exception to your use of "these respondents" since I was one of only two. I think he got a great deal on a very capable tool. I begin to think you did not read the posts before posting yourself. Bad habit to get into!
Judging by the fishy smell emanating from the other respondents post on pocket hole jigs I'd say he is looking for free advertising to sell DVD's of second rate carp.
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Men will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest.~ Denis Diderot
Don,
Apologies. I was referring to the other response.
My fault.
MelMeasure your output in smiles per board foot.
don,
A DVD of second rate carp. What is that some kind of fish story?
Haha
Ray
Mel,
If you bought that 6 foot 2x4 at Lowes it wouldn't weigh enough to tip over the miter gauge of my shopsmith. If it were a piece of reclaimed heartwood pine - now that is a strong tenon jig!
However, your point is well understood about the heft of the original Delta accessories.Greg
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"But it's still more expensive and not as good as mine! :)"
Did you pound your chest and make a Tarzan yell as you typed this message? You must be very proud of your jig. Way to go!
If only I could type a sarcastic grin.
Well as it happens, yes I am, but clearly I've upset a few people so I've removed my post. I hope that puts matters right.
Cheers
SteveSpace is more valuable than the junk that occupies it.
Woodworking jig DVDs and The Ultimate Tablesaw Tenon Jig from http://www.workshopessentials.com
I could be mistaken, not the first time, but I think there are more than one Delta Tenoning jig(s). One is a heavy duty model like the one Mel and I have and there is a lighter duty model like the one you purchased from Lowes. Anyone please correct me if I'm wrong.
The heavy duty one is somewhat renouned (sp?) for its sturdiness, among other attributes, and costs considerably more than its sibling. It's also a lot more expensive and I don't think they currently make it.
As to the decision to make or build your own, I think that's an individual decision for the user to make. This may well fall into the more than one way to skin a cat or mebbe the it depends meme. Either way I'm reluctant to call it a kettle of fish!
Regards,
Bob @ Kidderville Acres
A Woodworkers mind should be the sharpest tool in the shop!
There are two. I can't speak to whether or not the older model is more robust as I have never used it. They don't appear to be drastically different in price however.
http://www.deltaportercable.com/Products/AccessoriesDetail.aspx?ProductID=14160
I believe I read once that the older model failed to fit some Delta saws. Hence, the upgrade.
There are three, the two you linked to and the older massive one Bob is referring to.
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Men will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest.~ Denis Diderot
Don,
We had one of the old ones in a previous shop. It was nicknamed "The Old Roadmaster" after the '52 Buick my dad had when I was a kid. I'd love to have both the car and the tenoning jig now!
Cheers!
-Jerry
One of our neighbors had a 52, what a car!
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Men will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest.~ Denis Diderot
Don,
It was my Dad's first car. Bought it used in '54 on a lot in Brooklyn. Sold it when we moved to Virginia in '58 for $150. What a car. If I recall correctly, it was a flat head straight 8 cylinder with an oil-filled air cleaner big enough to bathe in.
Those were the days!
-Jerry
Specifications
Engine: overhead valve I-8, 320.2 cid (3.44 × 4.31); 1950-51, 152 bhp 1952 170 bhpTransmission: Dynaflow automaticSuspension, front: independent, coil springs, lever shocks Suspension, rear: live axle, coil springs, lever shocks Brakes: front/rear drums Wheelbase (in.): 125.2 Weight (lbs): 4150-4400 Top speed (mph): 95-100 0-60 mph (sec): 17.0 using Lo/Hi ranges
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Men will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest.~ Denis Diderot
Don,
Thank you. Pictures and now specs. What a trip down memory lane. I vividly recall the heavy feeling of riding in that car, and also the heavy scratchy (wool?) material covering the seats. The dash had tons of chrome.
My father's next car was a '60 Plymouth Belvedere with the big "wings" on the back. Very much the style at the time. Funny I don't recall anything much about furniture of that period. I guess "Danish Modern" was in vogue.
My father was an architect/interior designer and enjoyed mixing lots of styles and periods together. Danish Modern was not one of them, well, excepting some Eames chairs and such.
Anyhow, certainly have enjoyed today's "Roadmaster" journey. It's nice to savor pleasant memories of times past. Best to you as always!
-Jerry
My brother had a 50 model that he bought used in 52. Nice car. It was a straight 8 but I believe it was valve in head. I can't think of a GM production that used the flat head.
Hello Tink!
I think (tink) that you are correct. I'm remembering the straight 8 configuration and confusing it with something else.
Best!
-Jerry
Inline eight, valve in head.
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Men will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest.~ Denis Diderot
I thought the 38 caddy had a flathead v8?
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Men will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest.~ Denis Diderot
You may well be right. My knowledge is rather shallow and certainly not a specialty.
Actually, I think the Roadmaster was lighter than the old Delta tenoning jig. I have two of them, and fixed a flat on a Roadmaster. Getting the jig on the table saw requires two neighbors to help. ;-)
Ralph,
I think you are correct, the Roadmaster is lighter, but have you ever tried to cut a tenon with one?
As Mel noted in a previous post, the old Delta jig could support massive pieces of stock and was beautifully machined. I'm not actively hunting for one, but should the opportunity arise....
Later,
-Jerry
" . . . the Roadmaster is lighter, but have you ever tried to cut a tenon with one?"No problem. You just need the optional carbide cutters for the hub caps. It's called a "drive-by tenoning". ;-)
I did not know that. I'll tuck these comments in the recesses of my brain should I ever spot a hefty ole delta tenoning jig. Wonder if it fits the newer saws?
Thanks for the info.
Here's a couple of pics for ye. I trotted up to the woodshop and walked back with it. Mebbe I can get Mary (wife) to lug it back up fer me. :-)
I bought it, actually it came with the '72 Unisaw I bought from a friend last October for $300 for the saw, mitre guage and the jig. Yeah I'm gloating just a bit. Funny, I was thinking about Lataxe for some strange reason. It's his fault!
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Might not be able to see it but there is an adjustable bracket just in front of the tall handle on the right that I believe will allow you to make angled tenons. Someone mentioned that the old Roadmaster tenon jig wouldn't allow angled tenons to be made so this one may be a '58 Chevy, which was the first car I ever owned and it was dang close to a tank also. :-)
Also, the lock down to secure the angled bracket has a short handle on it that when the bracket is angled back on the jig it won't clear the handle when you try to secure the bracket. Ahemmm, Delta.
"Mary, can you lug this back up to the woodshop! You're a lot younger than I am ye know", as I duck the frying pan.
Regards,
Bob @ Kidderville Acres
A Woodworkers mind should be the sharpest tool in the shop!
Edited 3/5/2009 7:05 pm ET by KiddervilleAcres
Bob,
Super nice Chevy - but... it's not the Roadmaster. I'll see if I can find a picture and post it. (...unless Don beats me to it. dgreen = humanoid encyclopedia)
-Jerry
Here's a picture of the beast.
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Men will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest.~ Denis Diderot
Thanks for the info.
"Beast" seems like an appropriate description.
Here's another pic.
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Men will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest.~ Denis Diderot
Don, uh Mr. Encyclopedia,
Man that thang looks older than me for cryin out loud! I stand duely corrected.
Tell you what though, that thing I have weighs big time. So I guess i do have a Chevy.
Thanks man,Bob @ Kidderville Acres
A Woodworkers mind should be the sharpest tool in the shop!
Bob,
See the resemblance to a "Roadmaster"? Now that I have pictures to drool over, I might as well see about scarfing one up.
BTW, we got some snow here in Richmond this week. It did for a few moments remind me of winters in the Berkshires.
Later,
-Jerry
YES!! Where did you find it? I spent 5 -10 min Googling around and came away with nilch. What I did find out, though, is that my former business partner sold the jig back in 1985 to a local contractor. If this fellow still has the jig, I'm going to see if I can "make him a deal he cannot refuse".
-Jerry
The old ones are hard to get, and expensive. I came this close ..> <.. to getting one last year, woodworker offered it to me for something like $60, then his wife found out. It had been her father's, and she put the kebosh on the deal.forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-)
I had been wanting one of the old Delta 34-172 Tenoning jigs for some time and had been watching Ebay for a nice one for months. The well used ones were going for $200 plus and that was about my limit. I finally found what I wanted on Ebay and while it was not cheap I think I did OK. A fellow had one, new in the Delta box, for $202.50 delivered. Yes, I bought it and it is really nice, the box had never been opened. I already had an import that I bought at Woodcraft but this is so much nicer. It will not do angled, side to side, tenons but for the straight stuff it can't be beat. As Mel said you could tenon the end of a 6', 2 X 4 and it wouldn't move. I have kept the Woodcraft jig so far in case I need to do angled tenons, but so far all it has done is gather dust. The one you almost got for $60 would have been a steal.
Gave fun!
Bruce
"A man's got to know his limitations." Dirty Harry Calahan
Edited 3/5/2009 4:44 pm ET by Wingdoctor
Methink we'd have been reading his obituary had he actually sold it to me!forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-)
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