All,
I’m about to go shopping for piping to connect up the DC. I’ve got tentative plans for an initial, interim and long term layout in my small shop. The reason the plans are tentative and phased is because I’m not sure which material I’ll use, the availability of fittings for each material and the cost. I’m wondering if anyone has any recent experience comparing the costs of the different materials; ABS plastic, stove pipe (24ga), flexible woodworking (Woodcraft stuff)plastic stuff.
Initially I’m thinking of one 4″ line from the 1.5hp Jet Dust dog and move that as needed to the TS, planner, bandsaw, lathe. However, an alternative is to run two lines: one permanent to the TS (with a gate) and one line that could move to the other machines. I’ll still use the shop vac for the router table and workbench.
any thoughts?
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BG,
You have good timing! Check out the archives, we have been kicking this topic around quite a bunch recently.
Best!
-Nazard
BG, the thread of which he speaks is this one. Careful with that plastic, flexible hose though -- it'll drop your air flow significantly.
"However, an alternative is to run two lines: one permanent to the TS (with a gate) and one line that could move to the other machines. " That's pretty much what I did for awhile, using the aforementioned plastic hose. Most tools were snuggled up pretty close to the DC though. Since I have an overhead blade guard with dust collection, it meant running permanent hoses to those two (a Y off the main Y of the DC. The other part of the main DC Y would go to different machines. At one point when I was milling quite a bit of lumber (for me), I had yet another Y or two with the miter saw, planer and jointer all hooked up at the same time. The more airflow a machine needs to keep clean, the closer it is to the DC.
Plastic blast gates kept the suction going at the correct place. I found that the blast gate orifices fit the hose quite nicely, they make connecting/disconnecting the hose easier, without the use of clamps. Certainly lost some air there, but in close quarters it didn't make alot of difference.
FG,
I was following that other thread; learning and enjoying. The link to Grizzly and the prices for industrial piping scared me away. In the short run I'm willing to make a few mistakes to save a few bucks..hell, I used "dryer hose" to connect the garbage can cyclone system I bought a few years back..no one knew and it worked, kinda. Anyhow, your comments here are more to the point. My shop is less than 200sq.ft. The run to the TS is about 5-6', the planner, lathe are less. The bandsaw is about 8' away. Those distances assume a pipe on the floor. To go with overhead connections would probably triple the distance chips would have to travel....if I do that efficiency might be an issue...and I'm thinking about mixing plastic flexible with either plastic or metal pipe to help that issue.I'm also concerned about connecting Flexile hose or pipe to machines. I'm not sure what problems I'm going to have matching up ID's and OD's and or how many clamps will be required...does LN make a block plane or spoke shave for fitting plastic connections?...lol
BG, I'm going to look into the HVAC stuff that one or more of the guys was talking about in the other thread, the stuff that can be obtained at Home Depot or other BBS's. I really think that will work, and it has so many fewer headaches than even using S&D pipe would have. I'm much more likely to have too many blast gates open, than to have none open, I'm simply not concerned about collapse, and like you the shop is small, so no big long runs of pipe to be concerned about.forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-)
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