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   scooter1 | Jan 05, 2009 05:39am | #1

   For base, I've seen straight flat base with a small shoe at the bottom; and Sometimes see the top curved inward toward the wall.  Nothing too fancy.

   For crown, it was usually a plain curved crown, but often incorporated a picture rail right below the crown.  Bear in mind that most homes had plaster walls, and they still had to hang pictures, hence the picture rail.  In other instances where there is no crown, the picture rail was about 12-18 inches below the ceiling. 

   Regards, Scooter "I may be drunk, but you're crazy, and I'll be sober tomorrow." WC Fields, "Its a Gift" 1934
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   xmike | Jan 05, 2009 10:36pm | #5

   I have a need to make some picture rail molding, but can't seem to locate a profile. Can you show or describe the profile of a picture rail?
   Mike D

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   oldusty | Jan 05, 2009 08:03am | #2

        bugsy ,

                 There are quite a few Craftsman style homes locally , on a kitchen remodel I was able to match the size and scale of the crown on the new cabinets to tie in with the existing crown that was on each window and door head .The home was built around 1910 - 1915 .

        The crown consisted of an added 1/2" back board with a bead running under and topped off with a standard 2 1/4" crown mold, the entire detail was just under 5 ".

      Since that first time I have used this crown on dozens of jobs , enclosed is a picture of a colorful Soft Maple craftsman style kitchen with one style of craftsman crown.

           regards        dusty

   
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   Bugsy | Jan 05, 2009 03:43pm | #3

   Very nice detail on the cabinet. We just installed the same type of cabinet in our new home wich is under construction.  Have you ever seen crown molding in Craftsmans style homes. If so, what is the configureation. I am building a spec house this spring in the Craftsman style Bungalow. I do have some ideas and would appreciate any input from you folks.

    

   Scooter, was the crown that you saw a simple curve with no cove at the bottom.Is  it a large modified ogee 4-1/4" crown that comes preprimed or clay coated these days with an astrical molding 10" from the ceiling line.

   Thanks guys

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   oldusty | Jan 05, 2009 05:33pm | #4

         The molding detail and exact scale was copied from an original Craftsman 1915 home , I didn't  just show you some crown picture it is as it was .

             dusty

    

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   YesMaam27577 | Jan 06, 2009 12:47am | #6

   I owned an original craftsman style house in Ohio for a couple of decades. It had crown that was original to the house, and it was only a little different than the stuff that is popular today.The popular stuff today has a large ogee, and beneath that there is a small cove, separated by a fillet.The stuff in my house had a large cove, with a small cove beneath it, separated by a fillet.I am quite confident that you could use the stuff that is popular today, and absolutely nobody would notice the difference. The craftsman style is defined much more by the casing and base than by the crown.Do you have a design for your casing and base?

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   Bugsy | Jan 06, 2009 03:37am | #9

   thanks for your input. I agree with you on the crown details. I am going to purchase the Robert Lang book suggested earlier for more details on trim

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   OrangeFan | Jan 08, 2009 06:22am | #12

   I redid all the molding in a house my wife and I purchased two years ago.  (The walls had to come down to replace dilapidated plaster and lathe.) I found this website that described a few profiles, most importantly the “Classical Craftsman.”<!----><!----><!---->

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   My architect sister-in-law said it was perfectly period correct.  It came out great even though I couldn’t afford to do it all in quarter sawn white oak.  I died it with a mix of orange and dark brown Trans Tint with a thin coat of sprayed on poly.  The window casings look particularly nice.

   Edited 1/7/2009 10:24 pm ET by OrangeFan

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   Bugsy | Jan 08, 2009 03:37pm | #13

   The web site is a fantastic. It answered questions about crown molding. Very clean and simple. Here in Indiana we have a simple 4-1/4" primed crown that most of us builders install. The difference in instalation from this web site is that we put the cove part down. How do you folks install yours. Cove up or down?

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   OrangeFan | Jan 09, 2009 06:00am | #14

   I am not absolutely sure.  I didn't install any crown molding, only baseboard and windows.  Nevermind, now that I'm looking at it, I noticed my living room and dining room have the cove going down.  I wish I had a camera handy to snap a picure for you.  I'll try to do that sometime over the weekend.  It's rather interesting - in fact, it's all chestnut.  Good luck finding that now.  Just so you know, the house is in Becksville, OH and was built in 1921.

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   brad805 | Jan 06, 2009 01:08am | #7

   Robert Lang has a Craftsman trim shop drawing book that I think you will find very useful.  In this book he shows many options for trim, doors, built-ins and kitchens (for the era).  Lee Valley and others sell it.

   Here is a sample room I completed.  It is not truly craftsman style due to the complexity of many of the parts, but thats where most of the ideas stemmed from.  

   This example does not have the picture rail due to the dropped ceiling, but other rooms do have that detail.  I opted for a simple 3/4"x1.5" Cherry with a 3/8"x3/4" rebate and edge easings.  In that craftsman era it was a practical solution to hang pictures on plastered walls.

    

   Brad

   
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   Bugsy | Jan 06, 2009 03:34am | #8

   Very nice, is that a band board on each side of the casing

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   brad805 | Jan 06, 2009 07:37pm | #10

   I came up with all the profiles and had a few pairs of insert knives made for my shaper insert head.  Here is a pic of a typ window.

   Brad

   
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   Bugsy | Jan 07, 2009 03:45am | #11

   thanks brad, it does look good