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   RickL | Feb 27, 2009 10:22pm | #1

   You missed the point of the article. It's fine sand that's heated to create a shadow for a 3D effect. It has nothing to do with colored sand.  Hot sand will only burn/shade the veneer. You use colored woods for color effects.  Standard technique in any marquetry book.  Fine beach sand will work but don't expect blue sand to burn the wood blue.

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   ShakerMills | Feb 27, 2009 10:49pm | #2

   Hi Rick,

    

   I've seen the one on this website regarding the 3D burning effect and I don't think that's the one I'm looking for, but thanks anyway. 

   I probably should have added that I saw this article about 10 years ago. Maybe it wasn't colored sand he was using. That's why I'm trying to find that article, so I can better understand exactly what was done.

   Thanks,

   Pete

    

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   WillGeorge | Mar 01, 2009 07:14pm | #3

   Sir.. I could be all wet but I seem to recall something along those lines.

   As I recall aniline dyes were used within the heated sand.

   Maybe I'm just thinkin' that I saw it?

   Far from any real knowledge on the subject but I think aniline dyes may be toxic in some cases or maybe depending on how they are used. Heating aniline dyes and breathing the fumes may be a serious problem. I do not know if this is fact...

   I only mention this because my first thought was it would be easy enough to try.. But then again not sure if it is a wise thing to try.

    

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   ShakerMills | Mar 03, 2009 05:40pm | #4

   Thanks WillGeorge,

   I agree, it doesn't sound too safe, but thanks for your input.

   Like everything else in this world, I'll just keep plugin and chugin until I find something that works. :)

    

   Pete

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   SteveSchoene | Mar 04, 2009 02:40am | #5

   It's certainly worth learning to shade inlays with hot sand.  And I don't see much risk in shading veneer that has already been dyed.  You can of course obtain through and through dyed veneer.   Remember that the dye in DIY dyed wood sometimes doesn't penetrate deeply enough to be able to plane it flush.

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   ShakerMills | Mar 04, 2009 05:37pm | #6

   Thanks for the advice Steve. Maybe that's the subject I should have searched under, "Shading Inlays". :)

   I'm just getting a new shop up and running and there is so much to learn. I've done things as a hobby for years but I'm am kicking things up a notch or two and looking forward to lots of fun.

   Thanks

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   forestgirl | Mar 04, 2009 08:09pm | #7

   You might want to try posting in Jeff Jewitt's forum, at his website Homestead Finishing.  I suspect anything that has to do with aniline dyes, he knows about.  Even if not.....  He answers posts personally (Oooops, the forum is down.  Email maybe??)forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-) 

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   ShakerMills | Mar 04, 2009 09:08pm | #8

   Thanks Forest girl, I'll give it a try.

   Pete