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   jako17 | Nov 21, 2006 04:29am | #1

   Cadex

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   dannyboy | Nov 21, 2006 06:55pm | #5

   THANKS, I AM GOING WITH THE CADEX. DAN

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   nikkiwood | Nov 21, 2006 04:37am | #2

   The Cadex is awfully good.

   This question came up recently at BT, and I got this email from the guy a Floyd Tools (who sell most of the pinner brands).

   http://www.floydtool.com/faq.htm

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   November, 2006

   Hello;

   My name is Tom, my family owns Floyd Tool. I am familiar with the forums you mentioned. I am glad to answer your questions.

   3) Are the three guns copies of one another, and merely branded differently?

   The Cadex, Nikle, and Omer tools are entirely different tools. The Cadex and Nikle brands are owned and distributed by the same company.

   2) Where are each of the guns made?

   The Omer tools are made in Italy. The Nikle tools are made in Taiwan. The Cadex castings and other parts are made in Taiwan - the Cadex tools are assembled in various countries.

   1) It is rumored that one or all of these guns is made by Max; is that true?

   None of these tools are made by Max, although they may assemble the one they sell. The Max tool, the Cadex CP23.35, and a tool sold by Grex use the body castings and magazine assemblies from the same foundry in Taiwan. There are internal differences in the tools. The Cadex has been modified so that it can shoot 23 ga headless pins and also 23 ga slight headed brads (head shape is similar to an 18 ga "AY" brad).

   4) Or -- if they are different, is there a way you could briefly characterize the differences?

   The Omer tools (made in Italy) have dominated the 23 ga pinner market for many years. They have a reputation for high quality. The Omer tools are no longer the #1 choice, for many reasons. The factory has not kept up production of tools, fasteners, and spare parts (very frustrating for us). European exchange rates have risen in the past few years, increasing the cost of the products. The Omer 23 ga tools will only shoot up to 28mm (1-1/8"), and have a complicated magazine assembly where an adjustment needs to be made for different lengths of nails. They shoot pins only, no brads.

   The owner of the Nikle and Cadex brands engineers their tools to provide more features, good reliability, and affordability. They offer the only 23 ga tools that will shoot headless pins as well as slight headed brads. They offer the only 23 ga tools that shoot 2" fasteners. (we have the 2" 50mm pins on our site, will be adding the 2" brads this week). They also offer a wide range of pins and brads including stainless steel. Cadex and Nikle offer other tools including 21 ga pinners / brad nailers, 18 gauge bradders, narrow crown staplers, etc. Floyd Tool stocks all the Cadex and Nikle products on our website. We are adding new tools and fasteners on an ongoing basis.

   The Cadex and Nikle numbering system for tools uses the fastener gauge and maximum length in millimeters in the model #. The CP2335 is 23 ga, up to 35mm. The CPB2140 is 21 gauge, up to 40mm.

   Cadex tools that shoot both 23 ga pins and brads - CP2335 and CPB2350. The CPB2350 is a larger version of the CP2335. These tools offer the most features including a double trigger safety, exhaust muffler, removable plastic nose piece, swivel air fitting, belt hook, etc. The CPB2350 also features a thumb-operated "air duster" (built in blow gun). The balance and fit and finish make them a pleasure to use - as you know. An article in Journal of Light Construction by Gary Katz named the CP2335 as the best 23 ga pinner.

   Cadex tools that shoot 23 ga pins only - CP2330 and CP2350. These tools are more basic models. The CP2330 (up to 1-3/16") is an excellent alternative to the Senco and Porter Cable tools you mentioned. This tool has a lot of power for consistent drive. We have cabinet shops using these tools in production work with excellent results.

   Nikle tools that shoot both 23 ga pins and brads - NS2340 This tool was recently mentioned in Fine Woodworking. Shoots up to 40mm (1-9/16") Has the double trigger safety and is very slim and well balanced. Popular for crown molding work.

   Nikle 23 ga pins only - the NS2318 (3/8" - 3/4") is very compact, useful for pinning cabinet doors and installing glass in doors and windows. The NS2330 (up to 1-3/16") is an alternative to the Cadex CP2330 - good power, slim design.

   I appreciate your interest, and willingness to share this info. I know the Taunton forums are very popular. If you have any more questions feel free to write or call us. Thanks, Tom

   <mailto:[email protected]> TEL: 800-882-7060********************************************************
   "It is what we learn after we think we know it all, that counts."

   John Wooden 1910-

   
   

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   Edited 11/20/2006 8:41 pm by nikkiwood

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   dannyboy | Nov 21, 2006 06:57pm | #6

   THANKS NIKKIWOOD, GOING WITH THE CADEX. DAN

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   nikkiwood | Nov 21, 2006 10:40pm | #9

   This is the Cadex that I have and can recommend without qualification:http://www.floydtool.com/cp2335.htmCadex also makes a cheaper gun ($109):http://www.floydtool.com/cp2330.htmIf you are thinking of buying the cheaper model, I would urge you to call the Floyd people to see what they can tell you about the difference between the two.********************************************************
   "It is what we learn after we think we know it all, that counts."

   John Wooden 1910-

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   t4two | Nov 21, 2006 05:53am | #3

   I have a pin nailer from Central Fasteners.The MP30 shoots up to 1-3/16 Have been using it regularly for 5 years with no problems.Can't remember what I paid for it .Don't know if its the best but it does a fine job.

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   dannyboy | Nov 21, 2006 06:58pm | #7

   THANKS FOR REPLY. DECIDED TO GO WITH CADEX. DAN

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   ring | Nov 21, 2006 08:17am | #4

   I have 2 cadex guns - CP2330 - and they are excellent. This is a production shop, not occasional hobby use.

   DR

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   dannyboy | Nov 21, 2006 06:59pm | #8

   THANKS, GOING WITH CADEX. DAN