Two part resourcinol glue; resin and powdered catalyst. Project is a redwood countertop for a laundry sink countertop. Measured carfully, good joinery (for me) and proper clamping. Everything was working so, sooo well until I went to the shop this morning to find the glue hadn’t set. Too cold I suspect. Given time at 50-60 degree temps in my shop, is there any hope that this glue-up will reach any kind of adequate bond or have I just trashed a 4′ long slab of some beautiful clear heart redwood? Would a heat lamp do any good at this point?
Can’t wait to get moved into a heated shop!!!
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Dennis, throw an electric blanket over the top, set at "low." That'll do the trick: works in my 40-degree shop during the winter.
I'm assuming, of course, that the piece is still in clamps.
David
"The world that was not made is not won by what is done" -- Mundaka Upanishad
Thanks, Dave. That's one of those "Well, why in the dickens didn't *I* think of that" things. Good idea.
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Dennis in Bellevue WA
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David,
Great idea with the electric blanket, never thought of that one, wish I still had one, it either died or went to charity. I got this thing about wrapping myself in electric wires, just ain't natural. I have to run the kerosene heater for hours after I'm gone.
Dennis,
I here ya, I'm drywalling the ceiling of my detached garage shop right now and the joint compound is not drying correctly or fast enough with the 50 degree nights.
Enjoy, Roy
Off topic a bit, Roy, but with taping mud that 'dries' rather than cures as with the resourcinol glue, air movement will help speed up your taping project. If you can get a cross breeze in the space to carry off the humidity it might help some in your case.
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Dennis in Bellevue WA
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Dennis,
Sorry for the semi-off topic reply. Didn't mean to highjack your thread. I did mention kerosene heater though :o) Man if I had 10 cents on the dollar back for all the fuel used to heat the room and projects when I wasn't even in there.
I have been using the larger of the two attic exhaust fans and a box fan in the room, but I have not been running them overnight.
Enjoy, Roy
> ....Didn't mean to highjack your thread.
Roy - that's never a problem as far as I'm concerned. I used to run a FidoNET based BBS (Bulliten Board System) way, WAY back in the BI days (Before Internet) and it never troubled me when topic drift took a subject to new levels of interest.
I missed the mention of the heater .... sorry.
I don't like using hot mud. If you're not a pro taper, as I sure ain't, there's a lot of pain and suffering you can endure with that stuff. Once it starts to kick off, throw it away, clean the pan and tools and mix a new batch. It firms up fast, alright, but still takes a while to cure out.
I'm facing a lot of drywall work on the place we're remodeling and in this case, I think I'll farm it out!
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Dennis in Bellevue WA
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I got this thing about wrapping myself in electric wires, just ain't natural.
I know how you feel. If I want electroshock therapy, I'll go to my local psychiatric hospital. A lot of people must feel that way, because it took me weeks to track down an electric blanket -- just for bent laminations and vacuum-press veneering in my cold shop -- in stores. I guess they just don't sell so well, anymore.
Oh, we do have one more use, and that's on those rare occasions when someone in the house gets really sick, with chills. The electric blanket really helps. But no one sleeps overnight, or unsupervised with it. Must be the sawdust snagged in the fabric!
David
"The world that was not made is not won by what is done" -- Mundaka Upanishad
Edited 4/30/2003 1:42:04 PM ET by davamoore
I'll second Dennis on the air movement, get a fan in there, open a window and keep the air moving. Another alternative is to use hot mud. I'm no where near nor do I want to ever do enough drywall'n to get that good. It set's up real fast.John O'Connell - JKO Handcrafted Woodworking
Life is tough. It's tougher if you're stupid - John Wayne
Dave -
I KNEW we had three electric blankets around here somewhere but do you think I could find one! So found a "throw" at Fred Meyer on clearance (half the $39.00 price!) so bought it specifically for use in the shop.
Seems to be working however it's not designed to get very hot. Whenever I glue anything up, I always or usually take a couple pieces of scrap and glue & clamp in a similar fashion to the actual workpiece. That way I've got some test pieces to assess the bond at various stages. This morning I took one of the test pieces out of the clamps and it practically fell apart without much pursuasion. This evening, after being snuggled under the blanket, another test piece failed in the wood and not at the glue line.
I guess that's a good sign!
Of course, as soon as the wife got home she produced three electric blankets without so much as a second thought as to where they were!
As far as your comment about not being able to find them in the stores any more .... the clerk at Fred Meyer's said they were 'out of season' now that summer is almost here!
Thanks again for the suggestion, Dave. You saved the bacon for me!
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Dennis in Bellevue WA
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You're welcome, Dennis, glad I could help -- just passing on a tip that was passed to me. (If I ever come up with something original, I'll send it to FWW for their "Methods of Work" section!)
David"The world that was not made is not won by what is done" -- Mundaka Upanishad
Bring it in the house....
I do generally bring smaller glue-ups inside overnight, Tom, but since this thing is clamped to the top of a 3-0 x 7-0 solid core door slab for flatness control, that, along with all the clamps makes it a bit unwieldy! (grin).
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Dennis in Bellevue WA
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Another thing you can do is to get an electic heater. Build a sort of tent over the project and put the electric heater set on low under the tent. I've use this as well as the electric blanket trick.
Hi Howie -
I guess it's true ... geniuses think along the same lines! (grin)
After this close call, I began thinking about how to avoid it in the future. I was designing (in my mind - there's plenty of room up there for that sort of thing -hehe) an enclosure wrapped in one of the old electric blankets the wife produced. Nice thing about the blanket trick is that it folds up and can be stashed out of the way when not in use. Of course, a tent out of visqueen and some scrap framing lumber would be easy enough to produce on demand as well.
Moral of the story is, of course, read and HEED the directions on the can!
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Dennis in Bellevue WA
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How about using hide glue for a small cabinet door and the door is a little warped. How do you get it back apart to adjust it? It is just Franklin hide glue.
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