I need to make a 1/8″ bead in a cherry face frame for a cupboard project –
I have made 1/4″ and larger beads with a stanley 45, but have no tool capability for the 1/8″ bead – I’ve done a bit of searching and don’t find anything in a plane to make this small of bead – it appears that the Lie Nielson ‘bronze beading tool’ might have this capability, tho it’s not clear from the product description –
could anyone here give me a bit of direction on how I might perform this operation?
thanks –
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I was making doors, but the beading process would be the same:
http://www.inthewoodshop.com/Furniture/Making%20a%20frame%20and%20panel%20door.html
that was quick -
nice pictorial - I've bookmarked it for reference -
your #66 appears similar in function to the Lie Nielson - looks like I need to do a bit of shopping around - that and your wheel gauge look to be quite useful for my application - <!---->
to pull this project off will require that I elevate my skill set - this is much fussier while being bigger scale than any cabinetry I have done before -
thanks for the help -
D
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Hi David
I have used a variety of scratch beaders for all sorts and sizes of beads.
In aprons, curved and straight ..
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and door frames (similar to the example posted by Samson) ...
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The Stanley (and LN) #66 works well, as does the offerings of Veritas (above).
Or you can simply make your own, along with a beading blade of any dimension...
Such as this re-treaded marking gauge ..
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As it happens I was making beads with a Stanley #45 today. I had wanted to use a stratch beader but the cabinet uses Tasmanian Oak (a gum) and it was both too soft and too interlinked to scrape successfully (it just kept tearing out). So I decided to give the #45 a go. I was using a 1/4" beading blade, but I know that I have smaller than this, possibly two, and one is a 1/8". Do you have the full set of blades?
Practice beads on Tassie Oak (horrible to work with, but cheap!)
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Regards from Perth
Derek
I have a set of cutters - I'm uncertain if it's a 'full' set - the 1/4" bead and 1/4" groove are the two narrowest cutters, and are the narrowest that will fit the plane with both...ah...'backing plates' installed on the rails - I know there are at least two 'optional' sets of cutters that I don't have that possibly might have narrower cutters - the tool seems very clunky when operating at this scale - I've been watching for a wooden bodied plane to do the job with no luck, and I just talked to my friendly tool collector from two counties over yesterday and he had none that small, which makes me think that I'm not going to have much luck picking up a single purpose plane for this operation - the cherry I have stacked and drying is figured, and tearout is a concern, tho I upgraded my sharpening capacity a couple of years ago which has allowed my craft to improve - I've found the link to making the fence/cutter - is the working edge of the 'scratcher' just a 90* machine/file? - and the little bit of angle the plane imparts makes it work?thanks for the pictorial and link -
D"there's enough for everyone"
I've found the link to making the fence/cutter - is the working edge of the 'scratcher' just a 90* machine/file? - and the little bit of angle the plane imparts makes it work?
Hi David
Yes. These blades are really so easy to make, and they work well.
One of my favourite beaders is the one that Garrett Hack uses. These have a long fence and are very stable ..
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Do search of the FWW archives for an article.
Regards from Perth
Derek
I've made 1/8 beads using both shopmade scratch tools and the new Veritas beading tool. Although I'm normally a great admirer of Veritas tools I can't get along with this one, unlike Derek. There's too much slop in the fence, and in the early stages of scraping it's too easy for the blade to run off course. I actually got better results holding the blade in my hand without the beading tool. Could be me, I suppose, but I asked a Lee Valley rep at last year's woodshow to demo it for me, and he had similar problems (without previous experience with the tool). There's a learning curve with every tool, but I found things much easier with a couple of shopmade holders, including one by R. Millard in FWW somewhere. LV does sell a set of blades which includes a 1/8 bead. http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=1&p=62030&cat=1,230,41182
Jim
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