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Shop Talk Live 17: Behind-the-Scenes at Lee Valley Tools

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On this weeks episode, FWW editor Asa Christiana travels to Ontario for an exclusive tour of Lee Valley/Veritas manufacturing operations.
Also appearing on this weeks podcast is product designer Steve Jones, one of the folks behind Veritas Buck Rogers-like NX series block planes.
Nowadays, manufacturers can quickly turn out prototypes using incredible 3D printers that automatically produce models made out of plastic.
On this weeks episode, FWW editor Asa Christiana travels to Ontario for an exclusive tour of Lee Valley/Veritas manufacturing operations. - CLICK TO ENLARGE

On this week's episode, FWW editor Asa Christiana travels to Ontario for an exclusive tour of Lee Valley/Veritas' manufacturing operations.


Update October 24, 2012: Be sure to catch our exclusive video tour of Lee Valley Tools' manufacturing operation in Ottawa, Ontario.

Every two weeks, a team of Fine Woodworking staffers answer questions from readers on Shop Talk Live, Fine Woodworking's biweekly podcast. Send your woodworking questions to shoptalk@taunton.com for consideration in the regular broadcast!

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 Shop Talk Live 17: Behind-the-Scenes at Lee Valley Tools

On this week's Special Edition of Shop Talk Live, FWW editor Asa Christiana heads to Canada, for an on-location interview with Lee Valley President, Robin Lee, and an inside look at the manufacturing process for Veritas tools. It's a no-holds barred, all-access pass to the inside scoop on how some of your favorite hand tools are made--from the design and concept stage, all the way up through manufacturing and packaging.

New Shop Stumper Segment and a Special Prize
On this week's podcast, we debut a brand-new segment dubbed the "Shop Stumper." From time-to-time, we'll offer up a tasty woodworking-related puzzler question, and to sweeten the deal, we'll even give away the occasional prize to a listener selected at random from among all those who provide us with the correct answer in the comments section at the bottom of this post.

For this, our debut Shop Stumper segment, we're offering a copy of contributing editor Garrett Hack's woodworking classic, The Handplane Book (photo-R). Just listen to the audio Shop Stumper in this week's episode. If you can correctly identify the sound (just post your answers in the comments section below) we'll automatically enter you into the random drawing for Garrett's book.

 

Asa Christiana
FWW editor
Robin Lee
President, Lee Valley Tools
Steve Jones
Lee Valley product designer
Ed Pirnik
Senior web producer

 

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jcurtis67 jcurtis67 writes: The "secret sound" was a saw stop saw with the "stop" being triggered...
Posted: 4:24 pm on December 26th

user-395102 user-395102 writes: Saw Stop brake in action is my guess.
Posted: 10:27 pm on November 25th

WiseGuy81 WiseGuy81 writes: A saw stop saftey being engaged. As opposed to the normal hotdog I saw Roy Underhill do it southern style with a piece of fried chicken.
Posted: 9:16 pm on November 13th

usafchief usafchief writes: berferdt writes: The sound? The sound of both revolution and evolution being stopped cold.
The revolution of a blade is stopped so the Darwin's evolutionary process can be subverted; someone gets to continue doing stupid things without consequence.
Pity goes to the blade!
The question raised among my peers is; why the preocupation in Fine Woodworking with the saw-stop?
As a collection of folks with all ten digits each, this overwhelming support of a feature proven to be uneeded by professionals must be driven by amatures - both outside and within the magazine staff. Or is it simply the easiest and most lucrative source of advertising?
Posted: 10:32 pm on October 14th

concur....................................
Posted: 11:14 am on November 10th

Holry7778 Holry7778 writes: saw stop blade brake being engaged. The blade goes from spinning to impacting the alum brake as the blade is dropped below the table's surface.
Posted: 4:18 pm on November 2nd

jswood jswood writes: sound bite - saw stop blade activation
Posted: 12:40 pm on November 2nd

rroselavy rroselavy writes: This podcast BEGGED for video (or even pictures). Even the title "Behind-the-Scenes" suggests that we might SEE something. It was an interesting and worthwhile interview, but a missed opportunity in my opinion.

Keep up the good work.

-Scott
Posted: 4:22 pm on November 1st

krisintoronto krisintoronto writes: Saw stop breaker?
Posted: 10:02 am on November 1st

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sawdust55109 sawdust55109 writes: Sounds like a SawStop snapping to attention.

Posted: 5:34 pm on October 27th

RayRoc RayRoc writes: The sound was the "Saw Stop" doing its thing.

Keep the good podcast going, love hearing about the best tools, (at least for the day), and the mistakes you guys make.

When can we sign up for "FWW Live" can't wait?
Posted: 10:08 am on October 25th

jjciesla jjciesla writes: The sound was a SawStop Brake Cartridge engaging.
Posted: 9:29 am on October 23rd

mangledandrus mangledandrus writes: That is the sound of the sawstop safety brake firing.

Great podcast. keep em coming.
Posted: 3:28 pm on October 22nd

beem beem writes: Like many listeners, I too was disappointed when the decision to go with an audio-only podcast first came out, but with nearly 10 podcasts in this format, I can honestly say that the lack of video hasn't detracted one bit from its quality. In fact, the content is getting better.

The bottom-line for me is having Shop Talk Live continue in whatever format. I'm assuming this was Ed's baby from the start and he's done a fantastic job - the best woodworking podcast out there as far as I'm concerned.

So kudos to Ed and the rest of the FWW team for this informative and entertaining resource. Oh yeah, and the last time I checked it was still free!

Posted: 3:16 pm on October 21st

Lyptus Lyptus writes: The sound is a sawstop blade brake in action.

Great pod cast. The first pod cast I've ever listened to and I found it very informative and entertaining. Keep it up. I especially like hearing that even you guys make mistakes.
Posted: 6:44 am on October 21st

JMatthews JMatthews writes: The shopstumper sound is a SawStop tablesaw blade dropping into the brake.

I also have a suggestion for the podcasts. I've been listening to these podcasts for a long time now, and I find it disappointing that you guys repeatedly apologize to the listeners for being nerdy and geeky when discussing technical aspects of tool making, woodworking history, etc. We, as listeners and subscribers of your Fine Woodworking magazine, actively seek out your podcasts precisely because we are nerdy and geeky about woodworking. Interrupting the podcasts to say how nerdy you're being sends the signal that we should be ashamed of loving woodworking and fine craftsmanship as much as we do. Listening to some historical stories about woodworking helps to make the connection between our current work and work performed decades ago. People who aren't involved with woodworking aren't going to just stumble across this podcast and think, "Wow, these guys are too nerdy about woodworking for me to continue to listen."

Please continue your in-depth, historical, and techincal discussions because I think I speak for the rest of the Fine Woodworking when I say that's a big reason we continue to listen and read your work!

Keep up the great work you're doing on these podcasts, the online videos, recruiting the top craftsman, and the magazine. I have two small boys who are just getting to the age when they can create with me in my basement shop, and I hope they will continue to have access to your material without feeling ashamed that they enjoy the work as much as I do.
Posted: 8:31 am on October 20th

alswoodwork alswoodwork writes: Sawstop activating
Posted: 9:39 pm on October 19th

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Posted: 9:38 pm on October 19th

swmadden swmadden writes: The answer to the Shop Stumper question is a SawStop blade break being activated.
Posted: 2:51 pm on October 19th

snichols snichols writes: Since there's been a lot of comments about the video, I'd like to put in my vote for audio. I love to listen to it while I exercise and the feed in iTunes along with my iPhone makes this pretty easy.

To each his own.

If you keep putting this out, I'll keep listening. Keep up the good work.

-Shawn
Posted: 9:58 am on October 19th

sgrosser sgrosser writes: Great podcast this week. Awesome to hear quality tools using advanced materials are still being made in NA.
And in regards to the shop stumper, even without reading the countless sawstop references below- I've watched a hot dog get rammed into a spinning saw blade enough times I'd know that sound anywhere.
Posted: 11:43 pm on October 18th

gtrboy77 gtrboy77 writes: The Sawstop is the answer to the Shop Stumper segment.
Posted: 4:38 pm on October 18th

Ed_Pirnik Ed_Pirnik writes: rorynidaho: Not sure what you are referring to. This is the biweekly podcast, not a video series. Sorry for any confusion.
Best,

-Ed


Posted: 3:54 pm on October 18th

Timdekorte Timdekorte writes: I concour, a SawStop stopping a blade. Excellent interview, I sent it to some other folks. It's nice to know there are still family owned companies who operate with scruples.
Posted: 1:26 pm on October 18th

rorynidaho rorynidaho writes: Sound is a Saw-Stop brake engaging.

No VIDEO???? Your kidding, right. Your magazine is top-shelf, but you are SERIOUSLY dropping the ball on this. Good news, you can add video to correct this faux-podcast.

Posted: 1:25 pm on October 18th

james04 james04 writes: I to think the podcast without video is seriously flawed. It is way too difficult to sit in front of the computer listening to audio only and remain engaged the entire time. I think I miss about 50% of the content as my mind begins to wander. Woodworkers have creative minds that need stimulation. Some like to pretend that they can listen wile performing another task. But it simply is not possible. It is just background noise till you move your focus back to what is being said. I would like to think the folks at FWW would value there efforts a bit more than allowing them to becoming background noise.

What is the issue regarding keeping the video?

Is there a way to receive emails when posts are made to this topic?
Posted: 9:20 am on October 18th

professorss professorss writes: Saw stop mechanism activating and wiping out a blade.

Radio type interviews are good on NPR because they are dealing with ideas and facts that require no visualization. Touring a tool factory without being able to view the process is a waste of time.
Posted: 9:10 pm on October 17th

planetruth planetruth writes: The answer to #& Shop stumper is a SawStop tablesaw when the blade stopping mechanism is activated.
Posted: 4:29 pm on October 17th

Turtles_Cabinets Turtles_Cabinets writes: It is a saw stop brake engaging.
Posted: 3:50 pm on October 17th

salamanderseth salamanderseth writes: The shop stumper is definitely A Saw Stop brake engaging. I wonder if there is a way to submit your guess without seeing what others have guessed. I think some folks could guess by just seeing what the most guessed question is and not really figuring it out.
Posted: 12:25 pm on October 17th

DaveSchutze DaveSchutze writes: BTW... I agree with Thognar... I'm one of the 4 who miss video.
Posted: 3:21 pm on October 16th

DaveSchutze DaveSchutze writes: Great interview with an excellent toolmaker. Definitely a SawStop safety firing off.
Thanks for the bigger play button! :)
Posted: 3:19 pm on October 16th

jjbellisle jjbellisle writes: Sounds like a sawstop brake engaging to me.I listen to every episode of shoptalk live keep up the good work.
Posted: 12:42 pm on October 16th

YellowSubmarine YellowSubmarine writes: SawStop Brake Activating. Yep, apparently everyone else figured it out too.

Good episode, enjoyed the interview with Rob Lee.
Posted: 11:25 am on October 16th

JPSzcz JPSzcz writes: SawStop activating
(NOW how am I going to cut this hotdog?)
Posted: 11:03 am on October 16th

Forbsy Forbsy writes: Definatly the sound of a SawStop being put to full use (stopping a blade)
Posted: 5:56 am on October 16th

fortville fortville writes: Sawstop activating
Posted: 12:07 am on October 16th

Working_w_wood Working_w_wood writes: Shop Stumper = It is a "SawStop" being activated, stopping the blade.

Good show also!
Posted: 10:42 pm on October 15th

Mike_Davison Mike_Davison writes: I wonder if using on iTunes popularity as your measure of success is setting up your program for failure. Not everyone that listens to you podcast is doing so via iTunes.

By the way.... I'm one of those 4 people that miss the video. Woodworking and woodworking tools are just an inherently visual story.

Thanks, Mike


Posted: 1:56 pm on October 15th

Ed_Pirnik Ed_Pirnik writes: berferdt: not gonna tell you what the sound in the podcast is or isn't but if it were a sawstop - it'd be there simply because it's a cool sound.

Cheers,

E

Posted: 1:18 pm on October 15th

mwgroth mwgroth writes: The sound stumper is Safestop being stopped cold.
Posted: 9:17 am on October 15th

EricStammers EricStammers writes: Its a SawStop blade brake activating that or an electric nail gun.
Posted: 8:20 am on October 15th

EricStammers EricStammers writes: Its a SawStop blade brake activating that or an electric nail gun.
Posted: 8:18 am on October 15th

EricStammers EricStammers writes: A saw stop blade stop activating
Posted: 8:12 am on October 15th

clouts69 clouts69 writes: Nice interview on Veritas.

Sound was a Saw Stop blade being stopped cold.
Posted: 5:21 am on October 15th

berferdt berferdt writes: The sound? The sound of both revolution and evolution being stopped cold.
The revolution of a blade is stopped so the Darwin's evolutionary process can be subverted; someone gets to continue doing stupid things without consequence.
Pity goes to the blade!
The question raised among my peers is; why the preocupation in Fine Woodworking with the saw-stop?
As a collection of folks with all ten digits each, this overwhelming support of a feature proven to be uneeded by professionals must be driven by amatures - both outside and within the magazine staff. Or is it simply the easiest and most lucrative source of advertising?
Posted: 10:32 pm on October 14th

AJV AJV writes: Well your sound bite give away did exactly what you wanted it to do, thus far increased your blog post by 3x...very simple and smart idea. Another great pod cast, keep up the good work.

A.J.

PS - saw stop triggering

Posted: 8:53 pm on October 14th

TheBeerHunter TheBeerHunter writes: Podcast trivia sound: SawStop technology that just saved a finger... Or two!
Posted: 7:41 pm on October 14th

cahudson42 cahudson42 writes: Woodenwork/ Ed P:

Do both - video and audio.
Posted: 5:51 pm on October 14th

jtobs jtobs writes: Saw stop brake engaging the blade.

Posted: 3:35 pm on October 14th

kayerbear kayerbear writes: The sound of my fingers still being attached to my hand
Great show. and Great to see it is in the Stitcher app
Posted: 3:04 pm on October 14th

mcremona mcremona writes: Sawstop brake activating
Posted: 12:24 pm on October 14th

woodenwork woodenwork writes: It sucks without video.
Posted: 8:26 am on October 14th

jonquinn jonquinn writes: So apparently all is now forgiven of FWW by Lee Valley? I know they would not advertise with FWW for many years. apparently because of what they (LV) saw as intellectual property theft or infringement, and FWW's refusal to issue an apology.
Posted: 8:00 am on October 14th

booboo68ss booboo68ss writes: Sawstop being triggered is the soundbite.

Interesting podcast. Kool to hear the history of Lee Valley/Veritas and Robin Lee's comments. Refreshing to see a company that has not moved manufacturing offshore. Hopefully Rob will continue this tradition.Kudos to Rob on sticking to quality and principles.

Mike
Posted: 5:26 am on October 14th

sleclerc sleclerc writes: Sounded exactly like the Sawstop blade brake activating.
Posted: 3:59 am on October 14th

dustdog dustdog writes: The sound I heard was a table saw blade destroyer (SawStop) being activated.

I really enjoyed the podcast. I'm a very loyal customer of Lee Valley, usually purchasing a new item every couple of weeks.
Posted: 10:50 pm on October 13th

zoo zoo writes: The sound is a Sawstop Blade brake in action.
Posted: 9:14 pm on October 13th

MacGregorWoodWorks MacGregorWoodWorks writes: Yep, Saw Stop hittin' the ol' wiener.
Posted: 7:59 pm on October 13th

rondeal rondeal writes: The sound was Sawstop triggering the blade brake!
Posted: 5:01 pm on October 13th

freonguy freonguy writes:
Great interview - as a Canuck, it was interesting to hear of the Lee Valley roots again - both sets of my grandparents started off on the Saskatchewan prarie in shacks - ingenuity was a must.

Also, Rob Lee's humble style is so evident in the interview. Nice to hear more of the details and history.

Thanks again;

Dave B
Posted: 1:39 pm on October 13th

DavidBG DavidBG writes: I agree--it is a SawStop blade stopping. But I don't understand how this is a contest or a stumper since the answers posted are all public and available for all to see and borrow.
Posted: 1:23 pm on October 13th

bfin bfin writes: Clearly a SawStop tipping. Think there will be lots of folks in the "give away pool". Really enjoyed the interview.
Posted: 1:09 pm on October 13th

gknutson gknutson writes: Definitely a sound I only want to hear as a demo- a Sawstop triggering the blade brake and blade lowering mechanism, saving another finger or more. As for another name for your Shop Stumpers feature.......how about Shop Savvy. The tidbits shared make us all a little smarter about how we work in our shops.
Posted: 12:49 pm on October 13th

StephenKocsis StephenKocsis writes: SawStop being thrown into emergency stop (hopefully, a hot dog!)
Posted: 11:46 am on October 13th

kimber45 kimber45 writes: Have to agree with most who commented. It was without doubt the sound of ultimate safety: A SawStop stopping and retracting. I've heard it twice at live demos at my local Rockler store. (And I jumped both times even though I knew it was coming!)

How about "Shop Talk Tracks" or "Shop Talk Sounds"?
Posted: 10:22 am on October 13th

Mainsail Mainsail writes: Aww! everyone got the same answer as me. It's a Sawstop stopping.
Good podcast by the way. I have to leave my 5 stars here as I don't do I tunes.
Posted: 9:02 am on October 13th

ezek1el ezek1el writes: Definetely a saw blade from sawstop table saw that gets stopped by the special finger activated system that stopped the blade very quickly!
Posted: 8:28 am on October 13th

jonnyjonjon jonnyjonjon writes: Sawstop stopping? or a serious bruise & maybe bleeding?
Posted: 8:26 am on October 13th

Bg976 Bg976 writes: I have to go with SawStop stopping
Posted: 7:20 am on October 13th

mnwoodworker mnwoodworker writes: I think it's a Sawstop eating lunch!
Posted: 4:19 am on October 13th

jmunn jmunn writes: Sounds like the Sawstop cutting through some wood and probably hitting a hotdog.

On the subject of getting new people into building stuff, has Fine Woodworking thought about getting a presence in the Maker Faire arena? Lots of people there are learning by building lots of things and some even involve woodworking.
Posted: 1:15 am on October 13th

Ticky Ticky writes: I heard a SawStop doing what it does best.
I also think this was the best episode so far. Great interviews with a great company that I really respect.
Thank you Asa!
Posted: 9:47 pm on October 12th

beem beem writes: Asa's interview with Robin Lee was fantastic, especially the discussion on the future of the craft. Rob's take on this important issue was very impressive as you would expect. It's their business to reflect on these broader trends and I found his thoughts to be insightful and thought provoking - smart man!

As I was listening, I kept thinking wouldn't it be cool to get Rob Lee, Thomas Lie-Nielsen, and other industry leaders together to discuss this very issue? It's a topic that's frequently discussed individually among hobbiests, professionals, bloggers, magazine editors/staff and manufacturers, but never collectively as a group with similar interests from different perspectives and expertise.

Anyway, I'm just thinking out loud here. Speaking of which, the Shop Stumper (aka Shop Quandaries) sound was decidedly NOT the triggering of SawStop's safety mechanism. It was the sound of Matt Kenney tossing Ed's sound-effects gizmo into the path of a Powermatic 5hp PM2000. ;-)
Posted: 6:23 pm on October 12th

snichols snichols writes: Here's my thoughts on a new title: Playne Tracks (pronounced Playin' Tracks). I'm a big believer in puns.

-Shawn
Posted: 4:21 pm on October 12th

snichols snichols writes: That's definitely the most controversial sound on the woodworking interwebs: Sawstop being activated.

I'll try to think of another name for the segment.
Posted: 3:25 pm on October 12th

lzrdave lzrdave writes: Sound is a Sawstop saw blade safety retracting
Posted: 3:10 pm on October 12th

dramhadhmad dramhadhmad writes: triggering sawstop
Posted: 3:00 pm on October 12th

KSchobert KSchobert writes: Definitely a SawStop!
Posted: 2:39 pm on October 12th

jamlink67 jamlink67 writes: Okay, I guess it's a SawStop Saw activated stopping the saw blade. I think someone else might have said that.
Posted: 2:28 pm on October 12th

scrabtree46 scrabtree46 writes: The sound was a SawStop killing a blade :)

Posted: 1:19 pm on October 12th

cahudson42 cahudson42 writes: Shop Stumper - its a SawStop Saw safety fire - stopping the blade cold..

Either that, or a BAD kickback hitting the wall..:>)

Great Special Show BTW. More special guests in future!
Chris
Posted: 9:36 am on October 12th

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