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   qtsam2 | Aug 02, 2006 05:35am | #1

   I'm listening to it now as i'm viewing knots. i think its really great. and for anyone out there who can't watch it in 300k which i recommend so you can see it beter and larger there is a program  you can download for free (internet download manager) that is equally amazing. it truly speeds your downloading time with no strings attached. 

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   jfer45 | Aug 02, 2006 10:06am | #2

   Is this live or recorded?

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   qtsam2 | Aug 02, 2006 03:21pm | #3

   most of the shows seem older but as far as i know nothing is live.

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   forestgirl | Aug 02, 2006 07:48pm | #8

   "for anyone out there who can't watch it in 300k..."  I get so confused about this stuff.  I have DSL.  In their list, they put both DSL and cable at "100k".  What the heck do you have to have to stream at 300K???  Where do I look in my Windows-based system (XP) to see what speed my DSL modem receives at??  Sorry to hijack, but it does get confusing. :-(

   Well, I clicked on 300K anyway (so brave, LOL) and it seems to be running fine.  Furthering my confusion.

   forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-) 

   Edited 8/2/2006 12:51 pm by forestgirl

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   dwolsten | Aug 03, 2006 07:07am | #9

   There is nowhere on your system to look to see what your download speed is. This is something that varies depending on the overall network traffic, the distance between you and the transmitting site, the speed of other site's network connection, the phases of the moon, alignment of the planets, etc.There are some sites you can go to to test your download speed, but these are usually best-case numbers and depend on how far you are from that site. Of course, if you try downloading something from a site in Russia, your speed will be much lower.The sites that say stuff like "cable/DSL: 100k" etc. are just giving suggestions. Frequently these suggestions are bad. If you happen to know that your DSL connection is advertised as 640k, for instance, then it doesn't hurt to try the 300k stream (or even a faster one if it's available). If you experience a lot of dropouts or whatever, just quit and try the next lower speed.

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   forestgirl | Aug 03, 2006 07:11pm | #11

   Thanks for the info, DW.  When I first signed up for Rhapsody.com, I just about went nuts trying to figure out which speed to select in the set-up.   'Tween you and Bone's info, I should be able to get a handle on this stuff.forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-) 

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   bones | Aug 03, 2006 04:56pm | #10

   Service providers offer multiple tiers of DSL. Each provider has it's own flavor. All they do, is provision bandwidth to you for different cost. Generally you will have  a high download bandwidht coupled with a small upload bandwith since a majority of what you do is download.  I have DSL business class (thats what ATT calls it). I have a web site I use to check performance.  It does a very good job. I have used them for years to check troughput.  You select an image give a little information and it will download and time the transaction and give you a comparative graphic of what you are actually getting.  It will do an upload test as well. For download, I either use the shuttle jpeg or F-16's. I had a problem with my service not to long ago and used it to convince customer service I did have a problem. Anyway, here is the link have fun. If you have DSL the videos on the woodworking channel should be no issue.  I will mention that phone companies advertise speeds in general terms. For DSL  a lot can impact performance. If the phone lines to your house is older copper, or there are lots of splices in the lines(upstream), you will not get peak performance. For me, I am out almost at the limits of the distance for DSL in my neighborhood. I do not get the full bandwidth, but close, and that's good enough for me.

   http://performance.toast.net/

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   forestgirl | Aug 03, 2006 07:18pm | #12

   Thanks for the link, Bones.  I ran both the Shuttle and the F-16's (appropriate since this is Sea Fair weekend, with an air show).  Got the following results, respectfully:

    414,161 bytes in 2.938 seconds from EarthLink server.

   1,396,595 bytes in 9.36 seconds from EarthLink server.

   Have to figure out how to interpret the results, but I'm pretty happy with the home DSL, considering some parts of the island still don't even have DSL.  My computer at the store dowtown is only 2 blocks from the switching place (whatever you call it) and is a bit faster.

   Qwest (my connection) ranks 11th in the top 12.  If we go to Comcast in the fall, our cable company, we'll be with #1.  Won't that be sweet?!

   Thanks again.forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-) 

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   bones | Aug 03, 2006 08:10pm | #13

   No problem on the link. It is good to compare what your getting .vs. what they sell you. As to interpreting what you got, you should have had a graph that indicated breaks by megabytes i.e. 1,2,3, etc.  If you are paying for 4 meg down and you are only getting 600k (.6megs), then you have a gripe! In my case, I upgraded my service to the higher bandwith (cost more), and did not see the performance boost. They originally said it was my computer. Well when I showed a before and after snapshot, they created a trouble ticket and low and behold they made a mistake and had not upped my bandwitdh after all.  They were accurate on the billing part though.   I check mine on occasion. Take care. 

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   John_D | Aug 03, 2006 08:18pm | #14

   The Blue Angels just flew over my house five minutes ago. :)My goal is for my work to outlast me.  Expect my joinery to get simpler as time goes by.

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   user-161113 | Aug 03, 2006 09:35pm | #15

   Have two questions:  Can I burn a CD of individual woodworking channel programs and how? My PC has the CD burner.

   And, can I print the program schedule?  How?

    I am a 75 year old with less PC knowledge now than 6 years ago, or at least it seems so.

    

   Billy B.

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   bones | Aug 03, 2006 11:59pm | #16

   That's a loaded question. If you have a video capture card, and if you have a cd or dvd burner, and if you have burning software, it is possible. That's a lot of if's. Sorry. It can be done. Those programs are stream'd and not copied down.  Video capture cards or applications can capture video and you can save it. However, you need to bring a couple of things together to make it happen.  I would like to have copies myself, but don't want to fool with all that stuff to make it happen(and I have all the hardware and software). It would just take too much effort. I would gladly buy some compilations though.  That's why I like and subscribe to woodworking at home. It's a dvd that is like a tv show on a single dvd that I get every other month and you can refer back to it when ever you want.  I have noticed that some of their stuff is appearing on the woodworking channel.  Wish I had an easy answer for you.

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   qtsam2 | Aug 04, 2006 02:15am | #17

   well the other responses answered your questions but for you or anyone else out there,i have att(used to be sbc) dsl pro but my house has a lot of old wiring,anyhow i WAS having some downloading problems but like i said the internet download manager has been great. it lets you do things you couldn't and then  the things you could do better. 

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   forestgirl | Aug 04, 2006 03:23am | #18

   Thanks, qt.   I might use it when streaming music at home.  I get glitches there that I don't get downtown.forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-) 

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   BG | Aug 02, 2006 03:37pm | #4

   Tool,
   I think it's terriffic, lots of little pearls as to the 'How-to'. Just wish the warning could be skipped....everytime I log on ya-da,ya-da

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   bones | Aug 02, 2006 04:47pm | #5

   I like it. The router workshop was dropped from my local PBS channel, so it's nice to see it. It would be nice if you could get the the shows on demand. I can't allways be in front of the computer when shows are on. Maybee a computer TIVO would be nice!

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   mvflaim | Aug 02, 2006 05:35pm | #6

   I think it has a lot of good opportunity to it. After awhile there will be more shows and a bigger audience. It may be the last resort for watching woodworking shows as they are being pulled of TV left and right.

    

   Tell me and I'll forget, show me and I'll remember, but let me try and I will understand.
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   alfie | Aug 02, 2006 06:46pm | #7

   Good stuff. I just watched, and will come back to it.