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   PeterDurand | Nov 13, 2008 03:27am | #1

   SawStop.

   Yes.

   Cheers,

   Peter

    

   Better life through Zoodles and poutine...

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   Prolapse | Nov 13, 2008 03:35am | #2

   Thanks!!

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   Jimurock | Nov 13, 2008 04:11am | #3

   There are a number in addition to Sawstop.  There's a Canadian-built General, a General International, the newer Steel City hybrids.  Powermatic has some also, which are supposed to be generally available in Canada soon, and have been quietly available from some dealers.

   Jim

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   Prolapse | Nov 14, 2008 02:57pm | #7

   Thanks to you Jim and all the others who have helped me here. Much appreciated!

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   user-1194960767 | Nov 13, 2008 04:15am | #4

   For a jobsite saw, the Bosch 4100 has a riving knife.  It might be the only one in that category that has one, for what it's worth.  Cheers!

4. 
   WillGeorge | Nov 14, 2008 06:08am | #5

   See:

   http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m3156/is_9_113/ai_n28091215

   I 'think' a General International and not a true? General... I have no idea.

   Canada makes good tools!

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   Prolapse | Nov 14, 2008 02:55pm | #6

   Thanks WillGeorge! Useful info....Now all that remains to do is to check the budget.

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   bones | Nov 15, 2008 05:07pm | #8

   Grizzly makes one. I'd love to have it but my 1023 works just fine and I can't justify getting rid of a perfecly good saw.

   http://www.grizzly.com/products/10-Heavy-Duty-Cabinet-Table-Saw-With-Riving-Knife/G0651

   Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases:
   If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it.
   And if it stops moving, subsidize it.
   
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   WillGeorge | Nov 15, 2008 05:19pm | #9

   Grizzly makes one. I'd love to have it but my 1023 works just fine and I can't justify getting rid of a perfecly good saw.

   I hear you ALOT. I do that ..

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   Jimurock | Nov 15, 2008 05:52pm | #10

   Unfortunately the only way a Canadian can get his mitts on a Grizzly (saw) is to cross the border.

   Jim

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   WillGeorge | Nov 15, 2008 06:04pm | #11

   I still have my old 19 fourties something Split windsheild .. Ford or Mercury ..We can crash the border!

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   Prolapse | Nov 16, 2008 03:47am | #12

   Dear Jim and Will ..thanks to you both. The banter amuses me; I was not aware that Grizzlies were only available in the US. Too bad. Yes, its that perennial quandary:"How can I justify getting something better when this old thing still works well"In my case, I have to make a good argument to present to my wife as we have joint banking accounts. The safety argument may play out here ("a riving knife may just save my ribs or a finger some day dear"). Also, deep down, I know I can still do a decent job with my old old table saw, even if it is just a gutless and somewhat inaccurate Ryobi BT 3000. Where is that winning lottery ticket when I need it? Oh, how I dream of the ultimate workshop!! If we had three hours, I would tell you all about it.

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   Jimurock | Nov 16, 2008 04:17am | #13

   Ridgid is coming out with a granite-top hybrid fairly soon.  I believe the granite top does necessitate a riving knife.  The price is likely to be lower than the competition, though the state of the dollar may have an adverse effect.  From the prototype pictures it doesn't seem to have that solid a fence, though.  I bit the bullet and bought a Steel City earlier this year for about $1500 after taxes.  The riving knife was attractive, but more than anything I needed better dust collection than a contractor-type gave.  Perhaps your wife would buy that?  Start coughing as you come in from the workshop.  I didn't have to pretend -- it gets to you after a while.

   Jim

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   Jimurock | Nov 16, 2008 04:19am | #14

   I'd offer to ride shotgun, but I'd probably fall asleep in the line-up at customs.

   Jim

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   bones | Nov 16, 2008 06:34pm | #15

   OOPS sorry did not notice the location.  Sorry  bub.Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.

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   Y1RET | Nov 16, 2008 11:17pm | #16

   The General 350 and 650 both now come with a riving knife and are made in Canada. I have the 350 and it is a great saw. The 35o is right tilt and the 650 is left tilt. Other than that they are the same saw. General International is made in China but the General is still made in Canada.

    

   http://www.general.ca/pagemach/machines/0general/650R_350Rt50a.html

    

    

   Bob T.

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   Knotscott | Nov 16, 2008 11:54pm | #17

   Bob - I always thought most of the GI stuff was made in Taiwan. Did that change recently?

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   Y1RET | Nov 17, 2008 02:45am | #19

   Yes the General International stuff is made in <!----><!---->Taiwan<!----> or <!----><!---->China<!----><!---->. The larger tools are still made in <!----><!---->Canada<!----><!---->. The 350/650 are Canadian the 220 is made in Chiwan. Both of these saws come with riving knives. Generals web page indicates what tool are built local and which ones are imported. Either way they would be available in <!----><!---->Canada<!----><!---->.

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   Prolapse | Nov 17, 2008 12:52am | #18

   Thanks...May I ask how one chooses between a right or left tilt. Is this a matter of personal preference (shop setup) only?

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   Y1RET | Nov 17, 2008 02:53am | #20

   I think it is personal preference. I like right tilt because the distance is always constant between the blade and the fence. If you use a dado blade it stacks away from the fence so the fence measures the same.

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   There is in issue with cutting angles on a right tilt saw however, the table is large enough on a 350 to move the fence to the left of the blade to make most of those cuts.

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   Perhaps someone with a left tilt saw will do a better job of explaining the left tilt benefits.

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   dgreen | Nov 17, 2008 02:59am | #21

   1.  Left tilt has the bevel wheel on the right side and is easily turnedwith your Right hand.2.  Left tilt can rip a narrow bevel with out having to move the fence tothe left side of the blade.3.  Left tilt allows the blade arbor nut to be removed with your right hand.4.  Left tilt allows your to remove the arbor nut and turn it in thedirection that you would expect.5.  RIGHT tilt if you are left handed.  The bevel wheel is on the left sideof the saw.6.  RIGHT tilt if you "must" use the fence distance indicator when using ####stacked dado blade set.  The blades stack left, away from the fence.  Theindicator remains accurate.  On the left tilt, the blades stack towards thefence and makes the indicator inaccurate.  In this case use a tape measureto set the fence distance.7.  RIGHT tilt allows you to remove the arbor nut with your left hand butthe nut must be turned clockwise to loosen.  Bassackwards to normalcy.If considering a cabinet saw, with wide 50" rip capacity.The Left tilt will most often afford you the most storage room under theright table extension.  The RIGHT tilt has an access door in that locationthat will demand room to open.  The left tilt allows you to have access tothe motor and or the insides of the cabinet from the  more open left side ofthe saw with out having to crawl under the right extension table.  Very niceif you ever happen to drop the arbor nut inside the cabinet. 

    

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   Jimurock | Nov 17, 2008 03:10am | #22

   Just to add that the Steel City series of hybrids with riving knives are left-tilt, but have the access door on the right.

   Jim

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   Y1RET | Nov 17, 2008 05:30pm | #23

   That is a good summary, I like the point about dropping the arbor nut. Mine is a pain to dig out when I do drop it.