This is a plea for correspondents to abstain from run-on paragraphs and use the spell-check feature in consideration of others.
IMO, run-on paragraphs are at least as annoying as typing in ALL CAPS, and most spelling errors can be found easily using spell-check.
These two courtesies would be much appreciated.
Thanks,
Jazzdogg
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I know what you mean about a 'wall of writing' JD. The eyes glaze over at seeing the dense mass, and I move on to another post.
The spell checker at this site is a tool I don't use I'll admit-- so mistakes do creep in from time to time. Unlike the spell checker I have in MS Word, which I do use, it hasn't been 'trained' to use British English, so I ignore it, ha, ha. Slainte.
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The poster formerly known as Sgian Dubh
RJ,
Wall of writing, indeed! Not to mention what a pain it is to go back to such a monolithic post later in an effort to try and find a salient point - discouraging.
Sad to say, there's no substitute for an education,
Jazzdogg
>> ... most spelling errors can be found easily using spell-check.
You may be right. I haven't done an actual count. But the errors that I find most jarring are the homonyms, like their vs. there vs. they're, and the almost homonyms, like where vs. were vs. we're or loose vs. lose. Spell check is helpless in the face of that sort of thing.
Uncle Dunc,
You are quite right.
The same people whose pride wouldn't allow them to say a job was satisfactorily completed if it included gaping miters, a blemished finish, or uneven table legs, seem all too content to post contributions that would cause many school teachers to recoil in horror.
Not surprisingly, yet sadly, the schools seem to have given up the fight and have awarded diplomas to countless people without basic competencies for several decades now - wouldn't want to harm a student's delicate feelings with the reality that they don't cut the mustard.
I shudder to think how many otherwise competent, highly professional craftspeople fail to win jobs because of the credibility gap between the quality of their woodwork and their grasp of fundamental English (and other) skills.
In education, as in woodworking, the people who excel seem to be those who continue to work at stuff that's very difficult, while the rest seem to move on to something else when subject matter becomes too challenging.
What to do?
Jazzdogg
I dont know what you mean about run on senteces and spell checker cuz all my sentances are well writtten and I use the best english that I was taught in school.I dsont think I ever mentioned my school well it weas a good school except for the teachers, now Im remodeling houses and I still dont know about my rteachewr but they taught me how to spell
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LOL!
...and when the math teacher said pi r square, I tol' him, "No. Cornbread are square; pie are round."
In the spirit of cleaning up our grammar/spelling ... have you noticed that a lot of paragraphs in Fine Woodworking magazine start with "BECAUSE" and many sentences start with "BECAUSE." It would seem that with the proliferation of word processors and spreadsheets, we no longer teach basic arithmetic, grammar, and spelling.
Personally, I just don't see these forums as worth the time or effort to get overly picky. I already wrote my thesis and plenty of papers to boot. The formality is not here for those standards in my opinion.
Don
Starting a sentence with "because" is a grammatical error? This is the first time I've heard of it, and I went school back in the olden days, when they did teach grammar. "Because the schools do not teach spelling, spell checkers are not a luxury," looks perfectly grammatical to me.
Don C. - I guess it depends on why you post and, what level of pickiness you think is excessive. If communication is your goal, you probably want to be picky enough so that people can understand your posts. (And I hasten to add that I haven't noticed any problem with them.) I don't think formality vs. informality addresses either of the two issues that jazzdogg started with, excessively long paragraphs and bad spelling.
Hi guys. Couldn't stay away from this one. Don't start a sentence with "because"; use "since." But this rule is like the one that says "don't end a sentence with a preposition," or like the one that I just broke ("don't start a sentence with 'but'"...): when you take on an informal style, more of a "spoken" style, like here on the forum, a lot of these rules go out the door.
It's always a question of credibility; sticking to all the rules in the book can make you sound like a prig, and leaving them all aside can make you seem ignorant. I think balance is the key...
Plinthe
PS Ran a spell check on this and the only thing that came out was my name...
Ya mean
A preposition is something you don't end a sentence with?
Kudos to RonT - hit the nail on the head in this case. " Clothes make the man. Naked people have litte or no influence in society" - Mark Twain
(In)Famous quote:
"That is the kind of errant pedantry up with which I will not put." - Winston Churchill--
Lee in Cave Junction, Oregon
On the Redwood Highway
This is just like Iraq and North Korea. First there's a small uprising while the fundamentalist spellers try to impose their Strunk and Wagnall's, while meantime the real danger presents from an unsuspected quarter by those who insist we get back to woodworking.
Does that mean you won't be supplying the highlighted grammatical errors we discussed?
Hardheaded perhaps. The "real danger"? I'm harmless.
jdg
Oh, hell. Big deal everyone. I come here to mess about after work. I do furniture designing and making for a living, as if you didn't already know. I get tired of talking trade all the time at work, and I enjoy piddling about, cracking jokes, and goofing off in woodworking forums just to blow steam,---- and I rather enjoy answering a question or two when the mood takes me.
Well, how many of you amateur woodworkers that make your living as doctors, engineers, keyboard jockeys, or truck drivers want to to talk about what you do for a living all the time? Don't you ever go with your fellow workers and and have a beer or three and forget work, or even slag it off a bit?
What would happen if you visited forums dedicated to your profession? How do you deal with dedicated, bright-eyed amateurs?
The intensity of the amateur is a bit daunting sometimes. Lighten up everybody-- and do please break up your darned paragraphs once in a while whilst you're at it. It's not hard to hit the return key-- the 'wall of words' post is an invitation to be ignored. That's a simple communication skill, and if you want to be ignored, go ahead and post the 'wall of words'. I probably won't read it, and nor will a lot of other people.
I think I'll nip over to the Cafe and see if the Sgian Dubh/RichardJ thread has developed any further sexy, long lashed, doe eyed, sheep interest-- but that's only because I'm a dedicated pervert. (Think, dry, droll, ironic, sarcastic, British sense of humour before you get 'hacked' off with this post.) Slainte.Website
The poster formerly known as Sgian Dubh
I'm afraid I'm going to have to ask you to cite an authority on this one. I just spent several delightful hours scanning online usage guides. I found several that gave sentences beginning with "because" as examples of correct usage.
http://www.sussex.ac.uk/Units/philosophy/webstyle.htm
http://www.grammarsucks.com/html/body_scale_of_things.html
http://lrs.ed.uiuc.edu/students/fwalters/cause.html
http://www.uccs.edu/~wrtgcntr/archive.html
http://www.dyslexiamylife.org/grammar.htm
And one by columnist who presents himself as an arbiter of usage, using "because" at the beginning of the very first sentence of his column.
http://www.cjr.org/lc/
And several specifically permitting "because" at the beginning of a sentence.
http://www.commerce.otago.ac.nz/finc/writewell/grammar2.html
http://www.pacificnet.net/~sperling/jan.arch.html
And finally, one that says "because" at the beginning of a sentence is incorrect if the clause it is introducing is being misused. And even the example they give of that would be correct in dialogue.
http://www.everything2.com/index.pl?node=because
And tell Plinthe that "since", in educated circles, has to do with the passage of time. It is not a substitute for "because."
Since 1942, it has been o.k. to start a sentence with "because." Because that is the way we say things in conversation.
Edited 1/19/2003 7:58:55 PM ET by Claude
All right Unle Dunc, uncle!
Since can be used as a substitute for "because," just look it up in Webster's 9th Collegiate: "in view of the fact that: BECAUSE"
However, as for not beginning a sentence with it, sorry I gave you so much work. It seems I am a victim of my upbringing (boohoo): in a survey from Purdue University, 75% of college freshmen "said they had been told never to begin a sentence with "because." This rule is a myth." (Webster's Dictionary of English Usage)
I thus stand corrected. (An ignorant prig am I...)
Plinthe
>> "This rule is a myth." (Webster's Dictionary of English Usage)
And a fairly recent one too, I think. I graduated from HS in 1972, and like I said, I never heard of it before.
Help!
Police!
Eloquent brevity!
I too shall don my cape of noble eloquence and mourn the demise of elegant verbiage.
You can bet I used my spell checker on that one! Ha Ha
In this land we have free speech - the onus is on us to be understood if we wish to be listened to and heeded.
"In this land we have free speech - the onus is on us to be understood if we wish to be listened to and heeded."
Amen - Jazzdogg
youmeanthatthisisunaccecptabletoo?
it'sshardtotypewithoutthespacebar :-) joe
Surrender to it Jazz.
And by the way, how do you spell "dog"?
meant in the kindest way,
jdg
Edited 1/19/2003 2:26:25 PM ET by jdg
Oh my I really canot beleive with all the trials and tribulations thats going on in the world today that this type pettyness is going to be added to the list but by all means if we are closing our eyes to everything else and just oppening them this type of thing it's know wonder the worlds in the shape that it's in.
Complain on boys, Complain on
Sincerely,
James Clark
Doc-
What is your complaint?
...with all the trials and tribulations thats going on in the world today that this type pettyness is going to be added to the list...
Are you telling us that all of your social posts to Forest Girl and others about all sorts of things except woodworking are really coded messages about the burning issues of the day?
Have you really been telling us about "all the trials and tribulations thats (sic) going on in the world today"? The only reason I'm still in this country is that I passed the INS test for English fluency. It was a test marked by its not-pettyness.
You got the wrong Doc, Claude. ToolDoc and I certainly talk in code frequently, but Doc is more of a passing acquaintance.
When I saw this thread at its birth, I gritted my teeth with dismay. Personally, I don't really see the need for an entire thread devoted to griping at members who might have problems with spelling or finding the "Enter" key on their keyboards. I too was a bit aggravated by a recent paragraph than almost completely filled my monitor and was difficult to read. Took care of my irritation by posting a response to the subject matter of the post with an aside: "(though I wish he'd done it with a few paragraph breaks, LOL)"
IMO, a touch of humor in a personal note will suffice to get someone's attention when they dash off a reply or post that's difficult to read or PERHAPS YELLING in the cyber-form. Starting a whole thread about it seems like a bit presumptuous and high-handed. Oh well, to each his/her own.forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-)
Did you experience an almost insatiable urge to take some of the typos and grammatical errors of the protagonists in this thread and HIGHLIGHT THEM?
Do you mind if i use my response to you to tell "Claude" he can still a <G> where it's dark as a dungeon and damp as the dew, where the dangers are double and the pleasures are few?
Have i told you lately how much i like my baby drill press? (a little something for the code poh-leece...)
go cut some wood
Naaahhhh, putting that off until tomorrw. Just don't feel like building a fire in the warm-em-up stove. I did put a final coat of wax on some oak today though. Sweet.forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-)
>> ... take some of the typos and grammatical errors ... and HIGHLIGHT THEM?
Grammatical errors is a bit of a straw man. Neither jazzdogg not Richard nor I ever complained about anybody's grammar. But if the urge is almost irresistible (I think you meant irresistible, you couldn't know the urge is insatiable until you tried to sate it and failed), why resist? I'll bet I can find authorities that allow a third of the constructions you cite as ungrammatical.
I'll bet I can find authorities that allow a third of the constructions you cite as ungrammatical.
Please do so. I want the footnoted, annotated, collated, and cross-referenced version or i might have to sate, abate, and deflate my urges with a few well-toss'd Daisy-cutters of dialectic. Or perchance a whirl at dueling limericks suits your M & N's?
You do unbend your noble strength, to thinkSo brainsickly of things. ---Bill
Edited 1/19/2003 11:06:52 PM ET by SPLINTIE
"Have i told you lately how much i like my baby drill press?" -- Have you named it yet?? ROFL!! I'm so glad it worked out.
I used to edit manuals-, articles- and books-in-progress for a living, so it took awhile at these forum parties to stop stopping every time I saw a signfiicant grammatical error or mispelling. After hanging out here for a year or two, I'm starting to have my own problems with spelling, LOL!!! I think around here it's truly the thought that counts. And, if we can't decipher what the thought is, we can always ask!!forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-)
Have you named it yet??
I have just now decided to call it "Dunkin" for a variety of reasons.
Edit: Quit underlining stuff, wouldja? I've seldom met an urge i couldn't surmount, but i long--nay, i yearn!--to click that line of type with my leaden forefinger!
Edited 1/19/2003 11:17:49 PM ET by SPLINTIE
underlining -- oops, sorry. Sometimes, it actually is a link. That ol' control+u is ever so easy.forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-)
>> Starting a whole thread about it seems like a bit presumptuous ...
Starting a whole thread about it has at least the virtue of not pointing a finger at anybody in particular, unlike even the mildest, most humorous message to an individual.
I beg to differ, dunc. This thread has an overwhelmingly whiney and signficantly critical tone to it, attributes that, IMHO, are lacking in my posted response (the one to which I referred above -- 2nd paragraph, 1st sentence). There's no doubt in my mind that the people being criticized know who they are. I'll gladly submit to a poll as to which they'd prefer to see in print, my "aside" or this thread, or neither.
forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-)
Edited 1/19/2003 10:53:22 PM ET by forestgirl
"The Importance of Grammar and Spelling", "Why are threads started on such basic subjects?", "What is a thread on X doing on a Fine Woodworking Forum?" and "Why do the same questions keep coming up in threads?" --- like mosquitos, perpetually whining around the ears of readers of this forum.Give me a post that's informative and preferably amusing, before a grammatically perfect and patronising drone. IanDG
"like mosquitos, perpetually whining around the ears of readers of this forum." Yeah. I usually just ignore 'em, but once in awhile I just have to jump in with both feet.
What's ammo should we use -- Raid or simply repellant?forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-)
Daisy-cutters are overkill, ya think?
Splintie, I'm drawing a blank on daisy-cutters. Are we talkin' blood-and-guts here? Whipping they're legs with a weed-whacker? Fill me in here! Even Nick's drawing a blank.forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-)
"What's ammo should we use -- Raid or simply repellant?"I recommend; "The Patient Poster's Pedantry Preventative and Patronism Palliative"Available from me for a limited period.Cash, cheque or money order only.
IanDG
Tooooo funny, ROFLMAO!!! When's Splintie gonna tell what are a Daisy-Cutter??forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-)
You disappoint me Forest Girl.
Had you used your spell check, you would have found out that a daisy cutter is the largest conventional bomb in existence. Furthermore, frequent press reports to the contrary, the Daisy Cutter is not a fuel-air explosive (FAE). It is a conventional explosive incorporating both agent and oxidizer. In contrast, an FAE consists only of agent and a dispersing mechanism, and takes its oxidizer from the oxygen in the air. (Webster's Ninth collegiate Dictionary)
Splintie probably fell asleep reading these posts...
Plinthe
Spellcheck provides definitions?! C'mon now, I'm not that gullible.
Yeah, I think the d-c would be a bit drastic.forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-)
Sorry, I forgot to put this in
;-)
C'mon, Googlegirl! Here's your Daisy Cutter.
Probably a plain old Bouncing Betty would suffice.
What is disconcerting is i have no idea how this stuff got into my head.
then i was watching football today after i finshinshed doing some trim work in the hous enbut before i did that i had to fixe the phone line that i borke but i got it working and then the bucs beat the eagle so i was watching the raiders and then i came to see what was going on on theis board. but before i knoew the question i decided that rambleing about woodwporking and foot ball didnt count
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Take Care First Lady of the Forest.. ToolDoc-the acquaintance
You misread me, buddy. There's another "Doc" out there -- he's the one I referred to as being a passing acquaintance! "ToolDoc and I certainly talk in code frequently, but Doc is more of a passing acquaintance."
I would never lavish my voodoo on someone who's only a "passing acquaintance." Where ya been lately, anyway? Must be working hard, yes? Nick and I are watching Monte Walsh tonight, back to the shop tomorrow, my retail day-off.forestgirl -- you can take the girl out of the forest, but you can't take the forest out of the girl ;-)
"First Lady of the Forest", yes IM very busy between working my butt off at the Hospital and trying to clean up all the downed trees here IM getting quite a work out..we have been getting one snow storm after the other here soo theres plenty to do..tuesday & wed IM working 16 hr shifts cause we have some major repiping jobs to do at the Hospital.. plus the temps here really low down in the single digits at night brrr... soo if IM not around you now know why..<G>...
take care little Forest Buddy.. ToolDoc- - in the Frozen Pocono mts...
Sorry Claude wrong DOC I just log on when I have a little time and to see what everyone's up to. When I logged on yesterday and saw the tipical complaint that other groups have had at one time or another I just couldn't believe my eyes I always thought that this group of peolpe were differant and cared about woodworking and the topics that have to do with woodworking. Not to long ago I was on another woodworking site and this same topic came up my responce to them was to come over and check out Knots at Fine Woodworking I told them that this group doesn't bother with this type of pettyness and that you always get treated how you want to get treated and you treat peolpe in the same way with respect. Times are changing and in this day and age if we can point out others short commings that makes us feel better about our selves. Oh yes one more thing before I forget I've been called a lot of things but one of the tamest things that I've ever been called is an acquaintence it might not been that bad but like I said before I've always considered this group as somthing more than just a group of peolpe I guess I have always considered them as somthing more maybe nothing like personal family but somthing like maybe a close bunch of friends that you can count on if you need a question answered or if you need just to see how others are doing. Well I guess I was wrong so complain on but every once in a while take a second to listen and try to give one another a helping hand there are still a few of us that appreciates that sort of thing.
Sincerely
DOC (aka James Clark)
P.S I'd like to take a second to appologise for my misspelled words and run on sentences I now relise how much it really irritates certain peolpe so I'll do my best from now on not to mess up to bad. Thats one thing I like about my tools they never complain they just continue to hummmmmmmmmmmm
Doc,
I'm with you 100 percent! I would hate to think that this site should degenerate to the point where folks are afraid of posting for fear of making a grammatical error.
BTW, if I recall correctly, when I wrote my Master's thesis I had several folks, including an English professor with a Masters from Oxford, proof read it and the bloody thing still had mistakes in it. Last year, while digging through some papers and being quite bored, I sat down and read it again - final draft, accepted by the committee, given highest honors... Found two typos in it.
Jeff
To All:
Oui vhay! I just discovered this thread...and whata mess. I think the best thing we could ever do is burn the dictionaries. The only purpose of language (from body language to hypnotic suggestion) is to communicate, i.e., to convey a thought. How you get it done is perhaps the last bastion of individual freedom left in all this world....Let's get back to wood working.
I agree. I burned mine yesterday (what an #### I made of myself...live and learn...).
I'll stick to aking for advice from now on. Anyone kind enough to give it to me is all right by my book.
Like I said before, I guess it depends on your goal.
If your intent is communication, why wouldn't you want know about techniques you can use to make your posts more readable? What's petty about suggest that you could improve the odds of getting your question answered by breaking up your posts into readable paragraphs, or running them through spell check?
If communication is not your goal, if you're posting here for some other reason, then yes, I can see how spelling and text formatting might seem petty.
I was under the impression that this was a woodworking forum!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Relax, Woodchuc1. Nobody is forcing you to read this thread. There are plenty of posts on woodworking in other discussion areas to keep you busy reading until doomsday.
This is a general discussion area and some of us like these arguments...oops, I mean discussions.
--
Lee in Cave Junction, Oregon
On the Redwood Highway
Hi Lee,
I think you are taking my reply to seriously! I have no problem with anybody here expressing there opinions,wether or not I agree really doesn't matter. I think perhaps your reply should be directed more at the person who started this thread. I am sure there are other forums that will satisfy his desire for others to follow proper etiquette regarding grammar,spelling,punctuation,etc.
This is a woodworking forum.... the last time I checked!
Bill Bleiler
What a waste of bandwidth. I thought this was a place to read about woodworking.
BTW I'll bet you never watch "King of the Hill"
Too bad they're isn't a "punctuation check." Commas and periods always go inside quotation marks in the U.S. version of written English. Of course, the "foreign" version of English (heeee...heee...heee) allows them inside OR outside depending upon usage in the sentence. Oxford English - way more complicated.
There is a small but possibly expanding group dedicated to comma (and period) rectification. Our rallying cry, "First the comma (and period), then the keyboard!", is symptomatic of our desire for pure logic to prevail in all matters.
Would you like someone to visit you? We have brochures...
"Our rallying cry, "First the comma (and period), then the keyboard!",As a stirring battle cry that ranks with "Who wants to go and get killed?" and "Last one out of our trench is a Wally"Surely you can think of something better?IanDG
"There is a small but possibly expanding group dedicated to comma (and period) rectification. Our rallying cry, "First the comma (and period), then the keyboard!", is symptomatic of our desire for pure logic to prevail in all matters.
Would you like someone to visit you? We have brochures..."
I've been handing out "Woe is I, A Grammarphobe's Guide to Better English" to many of the grammar deficient. Is this part of your group's effort too?
I've been handing out "Woe is I, A Grammarphobe's Guide to Better English" to many of the grammar deficient.
Just a note on the word "better". As you know, better is the comparative form of the adjective good. Now goodness, a moral quality, is properly predicated of persons or their actions, not things. English is a language, a thing, and as such is not in itself moral, immoral, or even amoral.
One may say that English is correct or incorrect, but not better.
BTW, "grammarphobe" is not in the OED.
Jeff
Here's my guide to grammar. I think you'll appreciate the humour.
eddie
I think I like the other Guinness guide to Better English better.
After 1 Guinness, I don't mind; after 6 Guinness', I don't notice and; after 24 Guinness', "wasshat, gramma, I don' care, I'm gonna bed, nigh".
eddie
Edited 1/21/2003 5:14:18 PM ET by eddie (aust)
Don't look now, but your philosophy degrees are showing.
Jeff,You are obviously labouring under a misconception here; "Woe is I, A Grammarphobe's Guide to Better English" is an educational guide to good grammar for our betting fraternity -- prepared in the hope that instead of:- "Here guv, gissa fiver onna nose fer "Ruptured Duck" inna freefirty at White City" we may hear:- "Good Morning to you. May I wager Five Pounds that "Ruptured Duck" will conclusively win the race that takes place at 3:30 this afternoon in White City Stadium?""Grammarphobe" is obviously a typist's error, ("b" and "n" are adjacent on the QWERTY keyboard)and should be "Grammarphone" -- an amusing, if somewhat obvious, word-play on the fact that the manual is a 'Speaking Book'.IanDG
"Grammarphobe" is obviously a typist's error, ("b" and "n" are adjacent on the QWERTY keyboard)and should be "Grammarphone" -- an amusing, if somewhat obvious, word-play on the fact that the manual is a 'Speaking Book'.
No, not a typist's error. As spelled - "Grammarphobe's" - is correct. That's the correct name of the book and spelling. The "phobe" ending is a combination noun that may be applied to a word to indicate one who is fearing or adverse to something. In this case, incorrect grammar = "grammarphobe."
With chapter titles such as, "Woe is I – Therapy for Pronoun Anxiety," "Plurals Before Swine – Blunders with Numbers," and "Comma Sutra – The Joy of Punctuation" - how could one NOT be enamored of this writing guide? Highly recommended as it makes a nice companion to "The Elements of Style."
"No, not a typist's error. As spelled - "Grammarphobe's" - is correct. That's the correct name of the book and spelling. The "phobe" ending is a combination noun that may be applied to a word to indicate one who is fearing or adverse to something. In this case, incorrect grammar = "grammarphobe."Can I sell you a sense of humor?
IanDG
Where would he keep it?
"Can I sell you a sense of humour?"
Why certainly. I'll use it when something that is actually funny, or original is posted...
"Just a note on the word "better". As you know, better is the comparative form of the adjective good. Now goodness, a moral quality, is properly predicated of persons or their actions, not things. English is a language, a thing, and as such is not in itself moral, immoral, or even amoral.
One may say that English is correct or incorrect, but not better.
BTW, "grammarphobe" is not in the OED."
Jeff
You'll have to take all that up with the author of the book - I'm just quoting the title. If you read the book, you'll find out that she explains the title in full, including the correct but not necessarily best use of grammar, "Woe is I." I notice the use of a period outside of quotation marks - you must be English?
Looks as though your group's gone international.
See post 71 for the local equivalent.
Cheers,
eddie
Edited 1/21/2003 5:24:19 PM ET by eddie (aust)
Are you sure about that? Just how sure? You may want to look into it before you respond. Nevermind, don't respond because I don't care - lol.
jdg
I'm very new at this . As I was wandering around the site, I came across your message and wondered what "IMO" stood for.
Thanks,
Mike
In My Opinion
Also
IMHO = in my humble opinion
IMNSHO - in my not so humble opinion
IMNSVFHO - in my not so very humble opinion
Here's a site with a fair list. You can find lots of others by doing a web search for internet acronyms.
http://thor.prohosting.com/~arema/download/acronim.htm
Thanks for the info.
I went there and got a fairly large printout which should be quite helpful.
Regards
Mike
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