I am new to rubbing out finishes and I am looking for some input. I am finishing some hope chests for my daughters in black walnut. I decided not to use a filler and use multiple coats of shellac instead (for no reason other than being a novice) on top of a danish oil topcoat. Here are my two questions:
1. How many coats do you recommend of 1 lb. cut shellac?
2. How long do you wait before starting the rub out phase (at 70 degree room temperature in dry climate)?
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Some walnut has bigger pores than others, but based on a worst case scenario, I'd apply about 8 coats, and wait 5-7 days before rubbing out.
Rob Millard
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Thanks Rob. I have 7 coats so I may put down one or two more and wait for about 7-10 days.
Also, B4 applying the shellac, make sure the oil is very dry. Could take several days to a week or more.
Regards,
Bob @ Kidderville Acres
A Woodworkers mind should be the sharpest tool in the shop!
Oops. I waited about a day or two. Not sure if I'll have problems. Time will tell.
Kevin
If you didn't put on a flod of oil you may be ok. From your post it sounded as if you are in a very dry climate which would be in your favor.
Regards,Bob @ Kidderville Acres
A Woodworkers mind should be the sharpest tool in the shop!
What would be the signs of trouble?
Kevin
I've never used shellac over oil so am not sure. I don't want to give you information that I can't confirm. I'm sure the more knowlegeable folks in here can guide you.
As a guess I would think it might bubble, but am not sure. In almost all discussions I've seen in here there has almost always been an admonishment about letting oil thoroughly dry B4 applying any top coat over it.
Regards,
Bob @ Kidderville Acres
A Woodworkers mind should be the sharpest tool in the shop!
Edited 12/13/2007 10:44 am ET by KiddervilleAcres
Although it wasn't specified for sure by the original poster, danish oil is usually a thinned oil/varnish mix, not a pure oil. Assuming that the direction to wipe off excess was followed, most of these would generally be safe for overcoating after curing overnight at close to 70°. Shellac, in particular, wouldn't be likely to have problems over the danish oil. For example, Jeff Jewitt recommends padding shellac over a very light coat of boiled linseed oil beginning only a few minutes after applying the oil.
I would do it in two or possibly three cycles of:
1) Apply three coats of shellac, a couple of hours apart.
2) Allow to dry for at least a day.
3) Sand lightly with 320 or 400 grit, just enough to get a deglossed surface overall.
4) Repeat from step 1 as required.
You'll end up with more or less the same number of coats as Rob suggests, but I think that the process is a bit more controllable this way.
-Steve
Thanks Steve. I'm about 7 coats in so I will go with waiting 7-10 days.
Cheers,
Kevin
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