To all the Experts
I have ben working with wood for 40 years. This is a first. I glued Cherry boards in to panels over the week end . Cherry is 20 to 30 years old and dry. Just like I always did to make a 12″ panel.No splines no biscuits. This morning went back to the shop to to work on the project and all the glue lines cam apart.
It looked just like a glass line . No splinters on the wood.
All the edges where hand planed and careful fitted. Fit was exact. No warp and it was a tight fit. I used new Titebond III .
Temperature was 65 – 70? in the shop.
Hilmar
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Edited 4/3/2006 5:55 pm ET by h12721
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I'm not sure what happened, but here's something to check.
The glue you bought may be new to you, but may have spent years on the shelf. I talked to tech support at Titebond a couple of weeks ago, and they gave me some tips about their glue. The following information was given to me about Titebond #1, but it MAY apply to Titebond #2, and #3
Normal shelf life is 2 to 3 years. But has been known to last as long as 7 years.
Each bottle has a manufacturing stamp with a alphanumaric code. (not the bar code) The 1st digit is the last number of the year manufactured. So if the bottle was produced in 2005, the 1st digit will be a 5, a 4 for 2004. The 2nd digit will be a letter. Each letter stands for the month of the year the bottle was produced. (A for January, B for February, and so on) The letter "I" is not used because it looks too much like the number 1.
Glue stored in a glass bottle will last longer. They told me oxygen enters the bottle through the plastic bottle which shortens the shelf life. This doesn't happen with glass.
Do not expose the glue to freezing temperatures, or very warm temperatures. Though storing the glue in the fredgerator will make it last longer, make sure the glue has reached room temperature prior to use.
I'm not sure that your glue is your problem, but checking the date of production of your bottle of glue might be worth your time.
To GRW. The glue date is Sep. 2005
Hilmar
The only explanation I can think of is that the glue you bought, during shipping, had been frozen. I had the same thing happen on a glue-up where the glue had frozen and like a fool I thawed it out, AND USED IT! I'm much older and wiser now. Did it leave a chalky residue? It would be nice to hear from a Titebond engineer. I love that Titebond III.
Terrylee 86
Did it leave a chalky residue? NO
I am in contact with Titebond.
Hilmar
I have a gallon of Titebond III that is over one year old. I called Titebond before using it and they told me that the shelflife is listed at one year but, as far as they know, people have used it after that and have not had trouble. I was told that it may have the consistency of thick pudding (after sitting around that long) and that I should bang the bottle on a table. I did this and everything worked out fine.
Last week, I poured some of this glue from the gallon container into my glue bottle. The initial flow was quite watery and then some real goopy globs poured out. I mixed them all up and all of my glue joints are fine.
Is it possible that you used just the real watery part of the glue?
HTH,
LIGNEA
LigneaIs it possible that you used just the real watery part of the glue?
NO !
I will let you guys know what the outcome is.
Hilmar
There was a discussion in Breaktime about a month ago about a failure of that glue. You might want to search it out.
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