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   [email protected] | Apr 27, 2008 02:47am | #1

   I haven't seen them installed like the picture in new construction. 

   But, sliding trays are common.  There are several systems out there, the various manufacturers of drawer slides, all seem to have a slightly different take on it. 

   Woodworker's Hardware has system of standards and clips, that they say work with most slides:

   http://wwhardware.com/catalog.cfm/GroupID/Cabinet%20Drawer%20Slides/CatID/NEW%20Tenn-Tex%20Roll%20Out%20Shelf%20Supports/showprod/1

   I haven't tried them myself, but they do look promising. 

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   USANigel | Apr 27, 2008 03:23am | #2

   Looks like an easy way to set things up. You can adjust the shelf to suit the depth you need for the items in the "drawer".

   Should work for both framed and frameless cabinets.

   Only thing is you will need a hold down for the back of the shelf to stop it tipping when the drawer is pulled out.

   But I've not seen this method from a cabinet co.

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   AZMO | Apr 27, 2008 07:12am | #3

   BrookhillBob,

   I agree. Looks like a retro fit shelf mech. An undermound shelf system is inherently weak, it is only 3/4" thick at best. A side mount full extension will be able to support 3 times the weight and can extend 28" if the cabinet allows. I built my workbench with 28" full extension slides, no need for a shelf. It is 32' wide and holds 2 routers, sanders, drills, etc and never flexes. Best thing is I bought a new tool and had to raise that drawer about 5/8" to clear the new tool stored below. Easy to do by redrilling the holes.

   I have attached a large file, right click with your mouse to open in a new screen to see it in full.

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   brookhillBob | Apr 27, 2008 05:54pm | #6

   AZMO,

      What you did sounds like what I'll need to use for this kitchen.  However, the attachment you mentioned did not come through with your message.  Would you try again as I'd like to see this setup. Thanks.

    

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   AZMO | Apr 27, 2008 11:07pm | #9

   Bob, we will try this again! Undermount slides for heavy kitchen stuff is not great. They do make this slide in a self closing model also with a slow close mechanism. Cool but depends on the price range for how many drawers....

   AZMO I should point out I shoot with a wide angle lens that distorts the perspective. The bottom drawer is level and straight ;>)

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   brookhillBob | Apr 28, 2008 01:33am | #11

   AZMO,  Came through fine and looks great.

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   Dave45 | Apr 27, 2008 04:51pm | #4

   Bob -

   This looks like a fairly common approach to providing the convenience of pull out shelves with concealed hardware.

   My concern is with the strength of the drawer glides when mounted horizontally instead of vertically.  I've never seen any data, but suspect that a horizontal installation loses a substantial percentage of the load rating of the glides.

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   PeterDurand | Apr 27, 2008 05:25pm | #5

   I am building a desk for my wife and am using the under drawer hardware. They are good for 75 pounds. Here is the link:
   http://www.leevalley.com/hardware/page.aspx?c=2&p=55149&cat=3,43614,43616&ap=1
   Cheers,Peter
   Better life through Zoodles and poutine...Edited 4/27/2008 10:31 am by PeterDurand

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   Dave45 | Apr 27, 2008 09:06pm | #7

   Peter -

   I've used those on a couple of higher-end cabinet jobs, but I think that the OP used "standard" full extension glides which usually mount to the sides of the drawer box and are oriented vertically.  I'm not sure how much (if any) is lost when they're mounted horizontally.

   Those self closing glides are definitely cool, but they're pretty spendy.  Most of my customers lose interest when I tell them the upcharge. - lol

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   USANigel | Apr 27, 2008 10:57pm | #8

   The standard side mount slides lose strength in a big way when laid flat and the load tries to lift then apart.

   The picture looks like the hidden undermount slides have been used which would work in this case.

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   brad805 | Apr 27, 2008 11:28pm | #10

   Those horizontal slides dont give you much capacity.  If I recall correctly the Lee Valley versions are rated for about 25lb each, so that one could take about 50lb whereas typical side slide pairs are rated for 75lb or 100lb.  I have seen a lot of ads where these are shown as singles so I would check to see how much play they have to deal with alignment if used in pairs.  I finally installed some undermount accuride slides, wow are they smooth.  Pricey, but nice.

   Brad 

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   brookhillBob | Apr 30, 2008 12:52am | #12

   Thanks to everyone for your input.  It's a big help.