Hello to all,
I’ve bought a used lathe with a #1 morse taper. I’ve also found on-line retailers that sell adapters that will convert it to #2 Mt which seems to be the norm. However, looking for info I my new acquisition I came across another forum’s member that explained that accessories made for a #2 could be too much for a lathe with a #1.
Does anyone have any experience with this type of a set up?
Btw, the lathe is a well cared for Rockwell beaver 3400.
Thank you.
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Can you post the www site for those retailers? Sure would like to see how that adapter is made. Putting something thats larger into something thats smaller has me curious.
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Bruce S.
Hello Bruce,
Here's the link:
http://www.woodturnerscatalog.com/store/Lathe_Accessories___Morse_Taper_Accessories___Morse_Taper_Adapter___mt_adapter?Args=
Ok my mistake, re-reading the general description it says that it "Designed to adapt smaller Morse Taper centers to fit machines which require larger Morse Taper centers". I'll have to brush up on lathe nomenclature. What thru me off is the description that says "No. 1 MT to No. 2 MT Morse Taper Adapter".
English still isn't second nature to me, sorry for the mistake.
Thanks for setting me straight, saved me some money.
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You can go up, but you loose length between centres, and the accessories being used impose a greater strain on the headstock bearings.
See http://www.tilgear.net , page 40 of their catalogue lists Morse taper extension sockets. The order code for a one up to two is EXS1MT2MT and the cost is £9.50.
That's what I'm looking for!
Many thanks,
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Using an adapter to go to a #2 taper is not a good idea. Any drive center in the adapter will be some 4" in front of the nose of the lathe creating vibration and chatter when you turn and doing the headstock bearings no good at all. Also there is a fair chance that the #1 taper will slip in the bore under a load, damaging the taper surface in the shaft. To be honest, your lathe is not well designed, a #1 taper is too small for all but the very lightest turning. Rockwell knew this and made special centers that screwed onto the threaded nose of the headstock shaft so that the taper wouldn't have to be used. I would try to track down some of those centers either used on E-bay, or, if you are very lucky, from Delta parts service. So far as I know, only a few lathes ever used this set up, I doubt if anyone currently makes the screw on centers.John White
Thanks for the advice,
I think I already got the screw-on centers, which came with the lathe. I bought the lathe to equip it with a "Beall buffing kit ".
http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspxc=1&p=46880&cat=1,330,49238& opportunity =2
I'll put this idea to bed for now until I have time to acquire at least a basic knowledge of lathes.
It was an impulse buy without the usual book, dvd, internet round-up... I'll have to turn this into a good opportunity to turn my first bowl.
As always, thank you very much for taking time to reply. It much appreciated.
Sébastien
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Bruce,
"Putting something thats larger into something thats smaller has me curious."
Hah! That's what she said.
Ray
WHOOPS!
#1 morse taper 'stuff' is available from several sources. If memory serves me correctly, Sears (and Roebuck) has a series of lathes that use #1 tapers, and have both live, dead and spur centers available. They should also have a 1/2" 'jacobs' chuck with a #1 taper.
Another source is MSC. I believe their website is mscdirect.com.
EMCO machinery should also have lots of Morse #1 centers.
The biggest problem with using adapters is that they will magnify any run-out in the parts, giving you more wobble than you may want.
There are 2 or 3 magazines dedicated to the hobby metalworker. They should also have good info for parts that you need.
SawdustSteve Long Island, NY (E of NYC)
Thanks for the reply Steve,
the #2 conversion was an attempt at outfitting this old lathe with some of the new accessories (ex: 3-1 buffing system) which are all #2 morse taper. I still have to get a clue about lathes, but is seems this one came with the basics for turning whitin it's capacities. I didn't buy it for that but all in all it should make me a great little leaning lathe.
Thanks again for your time
Sébastien
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