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Asa; are you talking Industrial trends for the masses or of the studio furniyure movement?
the 21st century could bring many surprises for the the inustrial trends as the turn to green evolves. I believe that we may see some new materials, whether they be exciting or not time will tell. Technology will dictate all.
there more than likely will be a greater split in the studio furniture making as technology advances. there will be the tradionists making furniture but going the way of the cowboy. there will a bigger swing to technology as it's cost come down for the small shop, and the ones who have the disposable cash will be buying the latest to put in their home shop and have the bragging rights to the latest.
I imagine material costs will soar and quality materials will be much more scarce
tomorrow will bring what it brings or what the marketeers decide what we should have
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""Thanks for your thoughtful response.It's exactly what I expected.""
your quite welcome
discourse is healthy for the soul

""This was a pretty good thread until the past day or two. Maybe the two guys who've been stinking up the place with their arrogance and negativity will go away now.

Nah... Probably not...""

""Don't ask me what I'd prefer in its place, because I don't know.""
a real positive statement!
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some prople can confuse arrogance with honesty, but sir if you want to see negativity, you should look back at your own posts to view the positives

""It surley is exciting but timing will not fit for most. Oh to be one of these young 16-19 yr old's who I see making nice stuff, the opportunity is there.""

the sad part of this, is that most of these young fellows won't survive. most will not get the support nor the financial returns to keep them viable

I have every issue of fww, I haven't opened a grey wrapper in 2 years . I just renewed again. I have always enjoyed it. It does have alot more balance then what is atated in the following comment that I pasted in..I guess one day that I will sit down and read them and see what has happened in the last couple of years. I came to this site what 3 or 4 years ago and was looking around and I could see the bickering in a thread about how to use epoxy to assemble furniture; well I almost puked and this is the 1st time that I came back.
I am usually pretty quiet

""For all of the American icons that Malouf, Nakjima, Esherik, or Wendell Castle, the dominant designs in Fine Woodworking magazine are Greene & Greene and Arts and Crafts, or Federation or Shaker styles, with a smattering of green wood rustic (Windsor style. (I didn't include Krenov, because his influence was on the way of work, not the 'style').""
well I can see that this fellow isn't or hasn't been been influenced by the icons as he can't even spell their names right.
Krenov was first known for his philosophy to us with his books and his work ethics. there are sure a lot of Krenov knockoffs out there and he seems to have morethan a few disciples out there teaching his work. I would say that his style has influenced the hordes.

""So where does Danish Modern fit? For me, it is another reference point. I'd argue that most of us are most influenced by un-named designers - designers who produced the furniture we grew up with...""
like I said ; danish modern is a point in time and there is still alot of it around,though most of what you see is commercial. most of us were not concerned about designers when we grew up. it is another of those words that is grossly over used,eg; designer-craftsman or they want to be called artists-another load of crap

""If we are so darned modern, why are there so many reproductions of Eames chairs or Bruer chairs out there? And why are non-US designers like Sergio Rodriquez almost invisible?""
Eames or Bruers chairs are manufactured as in an industrial manner they are more than likely cheap to reproduce.
Who is Sergio Rodriquez. what is his influence on studio furniture making?

""I'm not sure that I have any answers. I suspect that we should quite early on decide if we are to make 'art' or furniture. I'd rather make some nice pieces that people use and enjoy and keep.""
I don't know how you can decide on how to go out and make art for arts sake. One can make furniture that can be an object of art, but it has to have the qualities to make it so.
are you an artist who makes furniture or are you a furniture maker who's work can sometimes be acknowledged as an object of art.
just do your best

there seems to be alot of b.s. here and a few stroking themselves from what it appears.
Danish modern is just a link in time, or a part of the evolutionary process. it got it's influence from times past as have most things. the only things now are that trends are formulated by marketeers and the sheep follow along.
to put Maloof, Krenov and Nakashima of having the same influences is a crock. 3 entirely different approaches to their work aesthetically and constructively.
I doubt that the home hobbyist will ever set the standards in the evolution of furniture. I am not saying that they do not do good work though anyone with enough time to spend to do something should be able to do decent work. this is all secondary to them as they do not feel the pressure of having to make their living from it. It is the diehards who have eaten, slept and pooped this stuff for their lives such as the forementioned; such as the Barnsleys, Malstroms, Krenovs, Maloofs,Nakashimas and many others who set the parameters of work.. these Guys did not step out as designers to formulate their careers, but who were workers and through their determination and approaches to aesthetics and contruction evolutionized the way that we look at furniture. it didn't all come at once either, but many subtle changes over the years.
I believe though that it is the likes of wendell Castle that may have lit more fires in our heats without us really being aware of it. there are lots that were more than likely put off by his work as being to much on the art side at that time, but borrowed more from him then they let on.
Now if it wasn't for the influence of modern media where would woodworking really be.
Fine Woodworking was something that came along at a time and brought it from a dormant state
times have changed and it is not the workers who will set the trends but the "designers for industry", marketers and manipulators
Just strive to do your best and happy new year
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Edward Barnsley is the son of Sidney Barnsley. there were Ernest Barnsley (Sidney's brother) and Ernest Gimson who all worked together and were players in the English arts and craft movement. They were part of the Cotswold group.
Malstrom worked for one of the Barnsleys during the 1st WW period
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Krenov was influenced by Malstrom, who is defined as the forerunner of danish modern. Malstrom was influenced by tne Barnsleys
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