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Re: SawStop inventor Steve Gass defends the latest tablesaw verdicts

There is the BIG problem with Mr. Gass, Mr. Osorio, and the court / jury / judge in this case ...... it is called lack of common sense, ignorance, and purposeful ommission of fact.
To illustrate my point, following is an excerpt of comment from Mr. Gass regarding the Orsorio verdict:

"As for the Osorio jury, I think we could argue about whether the law is wrong if you don’t believe that manufacturers should have an obligation to make there products reasonably safe - reasonable generally being defined as being where the cost of making them any safer exceeds the economic saving from reduced injury. But, that is in essence the law. I sat through all of the testimony in the Osorio case and I can tell you the jury made the right decision given the evidence before them and the law that they were instructed to follow. Ryobi said they couldn’t have incorporated safer technology and I testified that they could have based on my experience designing and building just such saws. But the jury didn’t just believe me, they also believed Peter Domeny from Bosch when he testified that the PTI had developed a system they could put on bench top saws for $55. EITHER SYSTEM WOULD HAVE PREVENTED OSORIO'S INJURY FROM BEING DEVASTATING. SO THERE WERE TWO RELATIVELY LOW COST POSSIBLE SOLUTIONS THAT COULD HAVE PREVENTED THE INJURY AND AND RYOBI USED NEITHER."[capital emphasis added]

I am EXTREMELY angry with this gas-filled Mr. Gass that is obviously only out to enrich himself. How about the NO COST solution of the moronic idiot that probably doesn't know how to read a manual, in English, that could have used COMMON SENSE and not USED THE SAW IMPROPERLY. How about THAT solution Mr. Gass? How about that? You conveniently leave that out, as did the jury, in making their decision.

All I can say is that it makes me even more convinced I want NOTHING to do with Mr. Gass and anything he makes.
I HOPE THAT EVERYONE WILL CONSIDER BOYCOTTING HIS PRODUCTS, INCLUDING ANY WOODWORKING STORES THAT CARRY THEM. THIS HAS GONE FAR, FAR ENOUGH.
WE, THAT HAVE COMMON SENSE, ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT CAN THWART THE NONSENSE TAKING PLACE TO FOREVER INCREASE COSTS FOR WOODWORKING AND FURTHER SLAM US WITH BLATANT GREED DISGUISED AS CARING ABOUT SAFETY.

Shall we REQUIRE similar technology on a bandsaw? A portable jigsaw? A sawsall? A drill press? .... and WHY NOT? After all, according to Mr. Gass I shouldn't have to be responsible for my own safety, or read a manual, right?

Re: Woodcraft signs on to sponsor Tommy MacDonald's WGBH woodworking show

This sounds great - better than the current "Mr. Milktoast" they have on now.

BUT ...... aren't there any woodworkers on the West Coast?!!!!
Just a thought.
Seems like we are always seeing the "Shaker" this, or the Victorian stuff, etc., etc. Wood be nice (pun intended) to see some west coast arts and crafts / craftsman stuff, contemporary, etc. And yes, I know arts and crafts started back east; Illinois actually.

Just my two splinters worth of comments.

Re: More Details on the Carlos Osorio Tablesaw Lawsuit

Scooterek,
This lawsuit was not initiated by any insurance company. You need to read both the trial transcripts, jury questionaire, and Gass' article in the Oregon paper.
This was pure and simple an idiot ambulance chasing attorney that found the YouTube video of SawStop.
The rest is history.

Re: More Details on the Carlos Osorio Tablesaw Lawsuit

You know what will be interesting is when one day, and it probably will come, one day the SawStop won't work and it will take someone's finger(s), or worse.

I don't wish this on anyone, but I can't help but wonder what this jerk Gass will say in court. H'mmmm, just think ...... "oh, well it's not perfect"? Or, "the operator should have been more careful"?

H'mmmm ..... well, maybe if the operator, using the SawStop had indeed been a little less dependent on the SawStop and generally more respectful of the machine and its inherent danger, maybe he would still have the finger(s).
Hopefully this will never happen, but if it does, I'd love to hear what Gass will say in court.

Just a stupid thought!

Re: More Details on the Carlos Osorio Tablesaw Lawsuit

The article Gass did for his SawStop made be SICK. He felt vindicated? He is glad that this lawsuit will potentially force yet another aspect of our lives into government influence, raising the cost of woodworking by potentially requiring his blade-eating device on all saws.

Okay, yes, the SawStop MAY be a good device, in some cases. I would still argue that we have gotten along without it with a great safety record ....... AS LONG AS YOU DON'T INCLUDE THE IDIOTS THAT SHOULD NEVER BE ALLOWED TO GET NEAR A SAW!

From Gass' article it became clear that all he really cares about is the advancement of his patented technology. And, his motives also became clear, finding out that he is an attorney himself. Has he read the extremely negative feedback from woodworkers around the country against the outcome of this lawsuit?

I may loose a finger or two one day, and would be by my carelessness (which won't be increased because I relied on a sawstop to protect me), but I will NEVER buy a SawStop. Call me ignorant or stupid, but I'm tired of lawyers and others' taking advantage of our corrupt legal system.

Re: Man Wins Big Money in Tablesaw Lawsuit

Had to include another comment I found under the originating article's comments at the Boston Globe ...... it says it all:

The hammer manufacturers will be next, for not including thumb detecting radar.

Now that sounds like a great idea!

Re: Man Wins Big Money in Tablesaw Lawsuit

This is a spoof, right?

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Excuse me, but since when does a proprietary system become required on ALL saws and the reasoning for being able to win a lawsuit when the IDIOT bought a cheap Ryobi in the first place.

Surely this must be a spoof. Surely. If not, this is one of the best examples of our legal system gone to hell.

Maybe the guy shouldn't have put his fingers in the way of the blade! And, for you sawstop lovers .... you CAN still get hurt on a SawStop; yes, you can.

Re: Tommy MacDonald and WGBH pursue a new woodworking show

Here are MacDonald's four (4) prerequisites for success:
1) Do NOT be anything like Bob Villa

2) Do the OPPOSITE of the PBS guy on "American Woodworker" and please, please, please don't be "milk toast" like this guy

3) Norm was very successful, so don't try to recreate the wheel so to speak. His show format worked though it lacked the following, leading to item 4:

4) Somewhat more detail of the woodworking process; and, can't we get some west coast, or at least broader based, type of projects? I am so sick of all the "period" crap! How about a lot of "current" stuff like craftsman and arts & crafts and maybe just some "original" things.

All I can say is if you can only take one of these points please don't be like "Mr. Milk Toast" on American Woodworker.

Oh yes, and how about using tools that most of us have and can afford - no ridiculous Saw Stop - you know, the one that might save a nick on your finger in 50 years of use and that eats 50 blades in about 10 years!
Oh am I gonna get some criticism!
Good!!!!

Re: Plywood for Fine Furniture

It is interesting to see the poll results that 40% use it to save a dime????!!!!!!! Whoa! There goes "woodworking". Hopefully those that voted that way really mean somewhere in between the "occasional" use and this one.
That answer to me is the "DIY" network way. Even in this economy using plywood to save a dime on the front can mean a rapid cheapening of the value of woodworking. Saving a dime up front can quickly mean loosing a dollar later - quality and lasting construction both in the construction and finish; resale value (if that is what you are doing), etc.

I go back to the DIY network. I've seen them so many times literally "throw" together some ridiculously looking, and constructed, shelf unit, entertainment center, etc. that won't last past the cameras being turned off. It is such a shame what people are willing to accept these days; and, NO it does NOT cost that much more to do it right! People just don't seem to know better. We are dumbing them down in quality.

I am a big advocate of the PROPER use of ALL materials in woodworking and anything for that matter. Just please don't start us on the trend of saving a dime only to loose a dollar.

Re: New Study Discusses Tablesaw Injuries

It would be interesting to know the history of table saw injuries. Both in the sense of number; but, more importantly, the type or circumstances around the injuries.

I suspect, based on a fair amount of experience, that a majority of injuries are routed in lack of respect, carelessness, distraction, etc.

I don't care what the machine; or, how many safety features ANY machine has ...... if you don't know how to use it; and, you are not focused during its use, there will be injury.

I think it is a BIG mistake to be trying to promote a "perfectly safe" table saw. First, the more safety measures, the more cumbersome it will be to use the table saw CORRECTLY; Second, machines like the Saw Stop can lull one into thinking they don't have to be careful using the saw.

The problem is mostly people getting these machines and not knowing how to use them. I would bet that a majority of injuries are from the DIY'er type that wants that great craftsman table saw just because it's the thing to do. Just watch the DIY channel or watch a few of the YouTube videos of the IDIOTS using a table saw or other machinery that they have NO business using!!!

Perhaps it is time to require a "license" to operate a table saw? Okay, I don't like that idea, but it would be nice if the common sense, and respect, of my dad's and grandfather's generation were a little more prevalent today. Just because your "a guy" doesn't mean you know how to properly use a table saw, or any other equipment.

Don

Re: iPad and Woodworking?

This iPad review made me realize the BIG problem with FWW's videos ..... they use Flash to stream them? Why? Why are they not like YouTube? I've had so much problem in watching the videos - they will not "pre-load" so I don't have to wait 10 times through the video for it to catch up or buffer.
So, with that said - get rid of the flash and make them either like YouTube; or, upload the videos to YouTube and then the fact that the iPad doesn't support Flash won't be an issue!
Following are the "cons" FWW listed with responses that would see to negate any of the cons. I've put them in all caps, so please don't think I'm yelling!


* Backlit: Harder on the eyes than the white-paper technology on devices like the Kindle.
AS FAR AS I KNOW, THE IPAD WILL WORK THE SAME AS THE IPOD TOUCH WHERE YOU CAN INDEED MAKE IT EXACTLY LIKE THE KINDLE (AND I DO ON MY IPOD TOUCH!)
* Needs a data plan: If you want the Web connectivity on the go, you must a buy 3G data plan separately. The iPad can also connect via wireless networks.
MY GUESS IS THAT MOST WOODWORKER DON'T USE, OR WANT, THE 3G HOOKUP ANYWAY? NOT SURE. DON'T MEAN TO OFFEND. WIRELESS WORKS GREAT WITH MY IPOD TOUCH AND THE 3G IS VERY, VERY SLOW COMPARED TO 3G. MAYBE WHEN THEY GET A 10G NETWORK.
* No Flash: Doesn't currently allow Flash, a technology that we currently use to stream videos and animate graphics though that could change.
AGAIN, AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED FLASH IS OLD-SCHOOL AND FWW'S VIDEOS SHOULD BE JUST THAT - VIDEOS JUST LIKE YOU TUBE, OR PUT THEM ON YOU TUBE.


Re: VIDEO REPLAY: Tenon Shootout: Hand vs. Power Tools

This commentary is more on FWW's video(s) in general than this specific tenon shoutout, which was good.

1) The video playback is very frustrating. Why does it not "preload" when I pause the video, such as with any YouTube video. I have a fast connection, but this is ridiculous ..... and then when I login to make this comment, the video resets and I have to wait another 10 minutes to get back where I was watching!!!! .... NOT GOOD!!!!!!

2) The "tags" for who is talking, or the advertising (such as Lie Nielsen) pop up and cover close to half the video ..... POOR judgement. These should only be less than 1/4 of what they are now. I'm watching the video and don't want those to block out things just when some detail is being shown.

If anything, this makes me mad at Lie Nielsen (not that they can do anything wrong!), or whatever advertiser is doing this. I can see who is supporting this by a MUCH, MUCH smaller tag/banner.

Please change this. I have avoided FWW videos consistently for these reasons and have said nothing before. If YouTube can do the first item, so can you. The second item is up to FWW and their advertisers.
Thanks.
Don

Re: UPDATED: Giveaway and Poll: The Most Requested Woodworking Gifts of 2009

It was interesting to see that one of the highest, if not the highest, voting was for lumber of the four polls. Of course, this is somewhat obvious since without that, we would not be woodworkers, but tool collectors! Oh wait, I'm a tool collector (probably more than a woodworker!)! Okay, guess we don't need lumber!
Don

Re: New Yankee Workshop Series Ends

THIS IS TERRIBLE!!!!!!
First David Marks, now Norm ...... no one left.
Except of course those "professionals" on DIY and H&G .... Pleeeeezzzzze!
Goodbye Saturday mornings!
We need to draft someone to get back in the saddle!
How about Fine Woodworking doing a show!

Re: SawStop rolls out a more affordable cabinet saw, aimed at serious hobbyists

SawStop - a great product, IF it came with a lifetime supply of Stop units; and, of my $100 plus Forrest Blades! I understand institutions wanting this, perhaps a business - though it would seem this would be a real costly item for a business. Perhaps the lower cost in insurance would make up for it?
But I'm going to go the route here of we never had this before, why now? Are we becoming more careless in the wood shop?
Does the SawStop make us MORE careful, or less?
Does the SawStop in generally provide more operational pluses that say Delta's new saw (at less cost) does?

Unless SawStop indeed provided me with a lifetime of Stop Units; and, the blades it ruins, I will opt to just be very careful as I use my saw.

Perhaps I will regret this statement one day, but my dad, and my grandfather were avid woodworkers and they passed away with all 10 digits and no close run-ins with the saw. They were mindful, respectful, and careful while using the table saw ..... and similar.

It seems we are being bombarded with new and innovative tools these days. Some great, but how in the world have we gotten along without them? ....... Just fine!

Sorry SawStop. You've come up with a great "invention", but a perhaps costly one that makes us LESS careful in the wood shop.

That's my two cents ..... and a ruined blade to go with it!

Re: Poll: The Next FWW Tool Test

I was rather disappointed in the selection of vote items for the tool test vote. Most, if not all, of them have been done fairly recently. The only one that I don't believe has been, is the air cleaners. My First Choice would have been the multi-purpose tools that are now competing with the WAY OVERPRICED Fein Multi-Master. You know, Bosch, Dremel, and I believe there are at least 3 others. This would necessarily, and almost more importantly, include the available accessories and blades, and their interchangeability. I'm just kind of tire of hearing about the $35-$40 blades (or more) that Fein is pawning off. These are the ones that last about an hour while cutting oak flooring.
That's my 5 cents (inflation from 2 cents).
Don

Re: Who Begot Who? Comparing Planes from Lie-Nielsen, Wood River and Stanley

It is sad to see more of the same thing going on with Woodcraft copying something great and taking it to China to make. Is this truly to make available an affordable plane to those who can not afford a Lie-Nielsen? No. A definite no. It is merely Woodcraft's desire to take sales away from Lie-Nielsen. Why not instead work with LN to perhaps get a better price for Woodcraft and make LN's just a bit cheaper when purchased from Woodcraft?
Don't get me wrong, I am grateful for Woodcraft, but it seems they are becoming more of a "corporation" than a store serving the woodworking community. Their "more than retail" prices on many things, such as whiteside router bits, and so many other things, is testimony to this.
It is becoming a vicious circle of downward descent in retail businesses when they do this sort of thing. When is the last time Rockler did NOT have some new "rockler innovation" for sale in its catalog?
Lie-Nielsen, and those like this company are what we need more of in America and from which we need to stay loyal to and promote.
If you really need a plane, but can't afford a LN, start with a "cheap" (not "too" cheap!) one that can be readily fine-tuned; or, save!!! LN is worth every penny - I never used planes until I got my first LN - now I find excuses to just go "relax" by using my LN. Truly a pleasant experience - right out of the AMERICAN box!!!

Re: Kitchen cabinets from reclaimed ash and pallets

Beautiful cabinets! They are similar to what I was thinking of doing - great inspiration. Only one "criticism" ... when you get a few bucks ...... stove needs to be black!

Re: Tablesaw techniques I wouldn't recommend

I'm sorry Fine Woodworking, but this isn't even worthy of showing on this "fine" site. If anything, it should have been reported through you tube as inappropriate and dangerous. Though I don't mean to slander ...... the guy is a moron, period, especially in having his daughter any where near that shop. If that's what he's doing with his table saw, who knows what else lurks in there. I really loved the cross-cutting of the piece of plywood early on with a miter gauge; and, against the fence. IF THERE WAS EVER A POSTER BOY FOR REQUIRING A LICENSE TO OPERATE ANY, ANYTHING, WITH POWER, THIS GUY WOULD BE IT. NOT FUNNY, IN ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM. ...... His poor daughter!



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