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Re: Appeals court upholds Osorio tablesaw verdict: Feds consider landmark safety standard

one issue i haven't seen addressed is the possibility of regulating the sale of USED or SECOND-HAND saws. don't laugh. IIRC, the CPSC or EPA(?) has started restricting/banning the resale of certain children's toys for lead & cadmium content- including those offered for resale- requiring chemical testing, etc. how long will it be before OSHA starts banning these "unsafe" saws and other agencies make it illegal to resell them?

"The government that is powerful enough to give you everything you want, is powerful enough to take everything you have."

Re: Blade brake inventor aims to compete with SawStop

to JohnOSeattle:

"They (SawStop) contacted all the saw manufacturers (of course) and were refused even at a nominal $100 per unit cost to the saw manufacturer."

one of the big problems is that the much touted $100 to adapt this to other saws is a complete pipe dream. that number is a best case scenario production cost per unit at very high volumes, i.e. pretty much all mfrs adopting the system. it definitely does NOT include the complete from the ground up redesign/re-engineering necessary and retooling for production. it was NEVER going to cost a hundred bucks per unit to include this technology on existing models. another thing i've heard suggested is that the $100 was just Gass' LICENSE FEE, plus all the aforementioned mechanical considerations.

as evidenced by the much higher price of SawStop's own products. yes, they are premium units that include other deluxe features not commonly offered as standard on other makes, but clearly a reasonable apples-to-apples comparison shows their blade stop system adds far more than $100 to the price of their saws.

in short, that $100 figure is BS.

Re: Blade brake inventor aims to compete with SawStop

i like the concept, but see at least one shortcoming: if you're pushing wood thru with your thumb on the trailing edge of the stock, down below the level of the guard, it'll go right under the sensor and into the blade.

every blade stop technology is going to have some compromises. i like that folks are plugging away at the problem.

Re: Man Wins Big Money in Tablesaw Lawsuit

slahiri makes an excellent point- should car mfrs be required to incorporate every feature found on expensive autos? for example, Porsches have phenomenal computer controlled stability systems that can selectively brake individual wheels, retard engine power, etc., to maintain control in fairly extreme circumstances. in short, you can do things at high speed in a newer 911 that would be suicidal in an ordinary car. should hyundai have to put all that stuff in a sonata?

on the other hand, seacruise makes a stupid point. what you consider a 'fair opertunity' (sic) to somebody who actually has to manufacture these machines at a profitable price may not be 'fair' at all. while it's difficult to compare apples to apples because SawStop makes a pretty deluxe unit, just look at the price of theirs vs. other reasonably comparable eqpt. and i keep reading the company's line of "only $150/unit to build this into ordinary saws." my.....eye...

here's a hint for the slow kids: if it can cut a 2x4, it can cut you. if that's too much for you to handle, maybe woodworking is not your ideal hobby.

Re: Man Wins Big Money in Tablesaw Lawsuit

i read a longer article that said SawStop has sold 20,000 saws since 2004 and claims to have 'saved 700 fingers'. one out of every thirty users has had a limb/digit threatening event in the last few years (you must figure most have had their saws much less than 6 yrs)???? that seems like a VERY high rate of incidence. or is that just how many cartridges the company has replaced? or are their customers a self-selected group of the more accident-prone?



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