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In response to JEFFE, we don't need safer cars, we need safer people. How many times have you been driving in the rain and someone blows past you as if you were standing still? And how many times have you witnessed someone shooting through a stop sign? We don't need safer cars, we need smarter people. The common denominator here is people. Just like guns don't kill people, people kill people. There are hundreds of thousands of things we can use to hurt ourselves from paper cuts, to limb crushing machines. And only a handful of idiots who do get hurt feel it is not their fault for their clumsiness, but the manufacturer who designed it wrong. I'll bet if you quiz any of these idiots about the safety manual you'll find 99% of them didn't even crack it open.

I think SawStop saws are great, but I think people are putting too much faith in the process. It seems like more of an excuse to be more careless. If I know the saw will stop once it gets a nick of flesh, then I don't have to be careful, and I can do whatever. I can remove the guard, I don't have to use a push stick, or anything... the saw will stop if I get too close. WRONG attitude, and you deserve to lose your fingers.

What if the braking system shatters the blade and it goes shooting into your face? You won't sue Stop Saw, you'd end up suing the blade manufacturer.

I believe the government should stop telling us all what we should do and mind our own business. There is no such thing as a safe machine and the more crap you put on it in the name of safety, the dumber people get. People get hurt for the simple mistake of carelessness.... You hear it time and time again... I was distracted, I was thinking of something else, my mind wandered for a moment.

I hate the idiots who hurt themselves on a table saw then want to blame the manufacturer for their stupidity. Yo, moron, you have no one to blame but yourself for your carelessness. Even in some of the videos, you see saw guards missing, fingers dangerously close to the blades...improper use of cutting tools handled wrong.

StopSaw has a good thing here and if you want to spend the money, that's your choice. But keep in mind there are more hazardous tools out there than a table saw. That nail gun you throw around, plugged in, charged up, powered on, fully loaded, lying there pointed at you. Yeah, accidents happen all the time, but 90% of them could have been prevented had the owner just spent a little time to exercise some 'common sense'.

And our government spends millions of dollars telling us what we should already know.

This is in response to WATERPENNY, by your own admission, you used your HAND to push the table and therefore got nicked. You weren't paying attention, and you weren't practicing safety. You got what you deserved. You take a shortcut, you pay the price. PERIOD!

The problem here is 'choice'. And that choice will be made for us whether we like it or not. As stated, the injuries here are the fault of the user, not the tool. The fact that many remove the very guard that would have saved them self injuries is testament to how royally stupid we all can be in the name of convenience.

I don't know why users aren't held responsible for their own stupid actions. As stated by Adam Thull himself, he openly admits to reaching over the spinning blade to save a piece of wood falling off his table. Two things, he didn't have an extension to his table saw and secondly, sounds like he removed the guard.

If one just practices the basics of table saw safety, many accidents would be avoided, but the truth is, we are always looking for shortcuts by not setting up the saw properly, not setting the feather boards right, not using clamp downs, and most importantly, not using push sticks. Many if not all lost fingers are due to not using a push stick, or blade guard.

After reading and much research I was stuck between my favorite brand Dewalt and Bosch. What made the difference was an auction on Ebay for a Bosch 4100 with riser stand. Not knowing if complete, I purchased it for under $410. To my surprise, it was totally complete and had all the parts. After taking it home and making my first few cuts, I believe I've made the right choice. After reading all the notes here, I know I did. Now I'm not a carpenter or woodworker by trade, but I believe if you do anything, the right tools are always a plus and not always can one get the 'right' tool. But if you believe in research, and reading other peoples responses and experiences, I believe you can eliminate a lot of head aches by listening. I love my table saw and it's portability. For the times I need an 'on site' saw, I now have one. And my little shop is really little. 8x12 so you know everything is on wheels.