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Tablesaw techniques I wouldn't recommend
comments (82) February 4th, 2009 in blogs, videos
Video Length: 3:34
Produced by: jdat747
Let me begin by saying that I do not recommend anything done by the guy in this YouTube video. But it is quite funny, at least how he starts the saw. Well, it's funny in the way that really bad things are funny. Laughter is the best response because otherwise you won't be able to deal with it. Don't get me wrong though. If I met this guy, I would say, as clearly as possible and most likely with a few salty words thrown in, that what he is doing is terribly unsafe and that he surely can't be as dumb as he is acting.
But part of me thinks this is intentionally absurd. I sure hope so.
One more thing: Some people who have watched this have thought that his daughter is sitting in the line of fire for kickback when he is crosscutting the plywood. I don't think so. He is dressed in different clothing, and the saw is on a little base. It seems to be a completely different day.
If the guy who made this video happens to read this blog, please buy (or check out from a local library) The Tablesaw Book by Kelly Mehler, and learn how to operate a tablesaw safely. Oh, and buy a new saw.
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All of which proves that stupid is as stupid does (and likely marries).
Wow.
Posted: 2:48 pm on March 23rd
Recently in australia where I live there have been remarks about the lack of productivity in the work force, if a worker has to spend an hour reading safety instructions filling out forms on the dangers s/he may face and what to do to avoid them then yes productivity will drop. There is a sheet over here (SWMS) safe work methods for using a shovel! that has to be read and ticked of as read before digging a hole. Sad. Remember Heath Robinson, I thimk our freind in the video might be related. Just get on with the job. How safe was it riding in a Conestoga wagon through indian country perhaps they should all have stayed at home and pulled the blankets over their heads.
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Well, I don't see what could possibly go wrong.
Hope his wife has a large insurance policy on him.
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@Ted in North Bay: ... Are you serious???????????????
Posted: 6:19 am on March 9th
"How many things can you find wrong in this picture"
1. No safety glasses
2. No ear protection
3. No dust protection
4. Power switch is on the opposite side of the table from the operator
5. No splitter
6. No blade guard
7. Making a cut against the fence while using a mitre gauge. Can you say kickback?
8. Not using a push stick. (using the cutoff doesn't count.)
9. Standing directly in line with the blade (too many times to count)
10.EVERYTHING about starting up the saw - the foot, the bucket, the pliers!!!
Also, I'm not going to comment on how he rebuilt the motor - not my area of expertise, but I'm not sure I would attach it to a VERY SHARP OBJECT until it was completely fixed...
Posted: 6:11 pm on March 8th
Naturally this video has spawned a forum on safety but it was done at the expense of someone's dignity. Perhaps the guy just didn't know. Or, perhaps he does know and he was just producing nonsense for YouTube. Regardless, it makes me ponder the credibility of this site because of the source of the material. Nothing short of lack of originality.
If I chose to watch such content I can go to YouTube and watch for free...If you want to charge me for content then please give me chargeable content.
Thank you in advance.
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Posted: 5:15 pm on March 4th
Others would seem to depend solely on the grace of a higher power to keep them safe or are unaware of the grave danger they face. Doesn't he seem happy, even proud?
I do not believe that this is an actor, this is a man of faith and likely an emergency room statistic yet to happen.
The saw could be made safe and usable - if it was properly rebuilt - but it is unlikely he has the knowledge to do that either.
My advice to him: take some classes, read some books, get a friend with more ability and skill to help fix the saw and for heaven's sake just buy a NEW motor and switch for the saw.
I would, however, suggest you stop video taping your efforts.
If your insurance company sees this stuff and they will NEVER pay your medical bills again!
Posted: 4:04 pm on March 4th
Why don't you spend $100 and go to harbor freight or Northern tool or Ebay or something and get a 1/2 horse motor to replace it. It's NOT worth it! I agree with MBerger and I wonder just how stupid this guy really is. The sad part is that he's probably an engineer of some kind.
Posted: 3:58 pm on March 4th
Let he who has never violated a safety rule cast the first stone, and know for certain that he is a very, very boring person that probably has never kissed a girl and owns a lot of cats.
Posted: 3:49 pm on March 4th
Posted: 3:46 pm on March 4th
Let he who has never violated a safety rule cast the first stone, and know for certain that you are a very, very boring person that no one likes.
Posted: 3:44 pm on March 4th
Let he who has never violated a safety rule cast the first stone, and know for certain that you are a very, very boring person that no one likes.
Posted: 3:44 pm on March 4th
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Posted: 1:57 pm on March 4th
jdat747 () Reply "I need to post my updated way of starting that saw. I use a strip of bike inner-tube now. Works great."
He's still using the saw!!!
Posted: 1:57 pm on March 4th
Posted: 1:51 pm on March 4th
Ever been to the third world? There's a reason people can live on very little. They aren't always running out to Crap Depot to buy cheap junk from China. This guy is the ultimate in Green Building. Do you think OSHA was around when they built the Taj Majal? Maybe he's putting 2,000 into his daughters college fund instead of spending it on an auto stop saw. When her college is paid for do you think she will care if dad is missing a finger?
Posted: 1:34 pm on March 4th
Posted: 12:59 pm on March 4th
BTW...this guy is an idiot....unfortunate that he apparently has been able to reproduce......
Posted: 12:53 pm on March 4th
Posted: 12:49 pm on March 4th
"WE" all know as W.W. that there is so many things wrong here.
I did a quick read over of the posting and found that you MISS IT.. Let me inform you as you saw him start out with trying to repair the motor himself. Him seem like alot of use "sometime" we think this is not so bad, until we are well over our heads in to project. Second he never fixed the motor before he used it, again or even had it check out by someone who knew motors.
Let use remeber to let it be done by people who know what they are doing until you have learned it SAFETY :)
Chris
Posted: 12:46 pm on March 4th
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Posted: 12:16 pm on March 4th
- Motor-starting process is pure insanity-- I can envision the belt grabbing the pliers and throwing them back to ensure that girl remains an only child
- Operating without a splitter/blade guard
- Cross-cutting with the fence in place
OK, what else?? I'm assuming that the girl is safely upstairs (the motor is still disassembled when she is shown). On the plus side, at least the guy had the sense to keep the blade lowered when he was starting the motor, and he didn't use his hand to push the cutoff piece past the blade.
Posted: 11:43 am on March 4th
Posted: 11:40 am on March 4th
BTW, I have one of those old Craftsman saws, and given that it lacks some refinements like a featherboard, it's still a fine tool.
Posted: 10:47 am on March 4th
It wouldn't surprise me at all if this guy made this for use in a shop class assignment -- identify all of the unsafe practices possible.
Posted: 10:37 am on March 4th
Maybe he should take up knitting, but he might poke himself with the needles.
Tache
Posted: 10:20 am on March 4th
I however did find the Pepsi commercial very funny. My initial reaction to the kick back clip was the same as yours…….”Ohhhh!” followed be a good laugh at the end. Because none of the incidents really happened, The Actors didn’t really get hurt and the humorous response of “I’m Good” by the victims was as if it‘s not the first time they’ve been there done that.
This video is the exact opposite in all respects. Just another naive haphazard Jackass, clueless to how many times he’s avoided a serious injury.
Someone please tell the moron in the video to turn his motor off before doing a tuneup, or at least have him start with the oil change first. Hopefully the motor will seize before he gets to changing the fan belt.
Brad
Posted: 10:18 am on March 4th
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Posted: 10:01 am on March 4th
I still don't know if it was an act or not, but in my mind there is nothing either positive or humorous about it.
Speaking of tablesaw safety, the TV commercial with the board kicking back and hitting someone in the back makes me groan everytime I see it. No doubt, the folks who made that commercial thought it was funny. Apparently they don't realize how dangerous a flying missile like that is.
Posted: 9:39 am on March 4th
You shouldn't lick your table saw blade while it's spinning either, but do you really think we need a video demonstrating why?
Posted: 9:32 am on March 4th
"All an act”,”to point out unsafe practices"?
You should lick your table saw blade while it's spinning either, but do you really think we need a video demonstrating why?
If this video helped explain safety to you, I hope the only power tools you possess are made by Hasbro, Mattel or Playschool.
Here's a useful tip, roge05156:
Keep your health insurance premiums up to date,
Duh,
bRda
Posted: 9:26 am on March 4th
I didn't use that tablesaw again until I read all I could find and was well versed in tablesaw saftey and use. I also turned the saw 180 degrees so that any possible kickback would strike the block wall in the basement.
Good video for what not to do. Puts your' heart in your' throat thinking of that little one.
Posted: 9:20 am on March 4th
I didn't use that tablesaw again until I read all I could find and was well versed in tablesaw saftey and use. I also turned the saw 180 degrees so that any possible kickback would strike the block wall in the basement.
Good video for what not to do. Puts your' heart in your' throat thinking of that little one.
Posted: 9:20 am on March 4th
Why? What purpose does this serve?
Aside from agreeing with most of the comments, I find this video completely useless. Other than opening the door for other copycat morons, this video serves no purpose whatsoever. Even more so in a "Fine wood working" forum.
I struggle to find it amusing or entertaining, nor is there any educational value. This is, at best, a rather poor example of a clueless Jackass weekend wantabe woodworker with the hopes and dreams to famous for his moronic displays of stupidity, and you are now his promoter.
This comes from a former college professor, really?
I guess it does serve one purpose, to fill in a blank space on your forum?
Come on Matt, get back on track.
Brad
Posted: 8:58 am on March 4th
Posted: 8:49 am on March 4th
This is like an Alfred Hitchcock suspense/thriller. We all know what is or can possibly happen. What were hoping is that he gets out alive.
One, I can't believe that this video would even make it onto this site. I think anyone that gives this guy any credit at all is delusional.
Two, I can't spend someone else's money, but for a few hundred balloons he could have picked up a new saw or a newer used saw that worked and had some safety features.
I hope the next video is not of him going to emergency. Maybe "intentionally absurd" is a new medical term.
Posted: 8:31 am on March 4th
"Jackass." I don't know when it was shot, and I wonder if the guy (and his family) are still alive.
Posted: 8:21 am on March 4th
Other than using the miter gauge with the fence (how did it not kick back?), it wasn't the stupidest thing that I've ever seen. Seems he could have used a cord for the starter motor, like one to start a lawnmower, and then I think that I would have hung the bucket from the board.
I'm glad that I had high school wood shop to learn shop safety. Our shop teacher would throw a block of wood at you if you did something unsafe. Of course that was also dangerous, but everyone in the class got the point.
Posted: 7:58 am on March 4th
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Posted: 11:07 pm on March 3rd
I appreciate your concern, but you're wrong. Fine Woodworking is about educating its readers about woodworking: the best materials, the best tools, and the best techniques. One way to educate is to show what shouldn't be done. This video does precisely that, and, let me add, it is clear that neither I nor anyone else thinks that what the guy is doing is safe or good practice. In fact, it is abundantly clearly that we all disapprove.
It is highly likely that someone has read this blog, looked at the video, and said, "Oh, I shouldn't use the fence when crosscutting. I didn't know that."
Keep in mind that in order to learn how to do something, you often need to be told or shown how not to do it.
Posted: 8:20 pm on February 11th
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Posted: 1:11 pm on February 7th
Having said that, this is like a check list of unsafe things to do with a table saw. No guard, miter guage and fence, uneven top you could go on. I stopped breathing when he made the cut, waiting for something gruesome to happen.
I just got rid of a 1950's era sears craftsman table saw because it wasn't safe--and it was in a lot better condition than this one. Let's chip in and buy this guy a sawstop!!!
And the best comment was the one with the link to Kelly Mehler's book.
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-Ace-
Posted: 3:20 pm on February 5th
One word..."SawStop"
Posted: 11:05 am on February 5th
Posted: 7:10 pm on February 4th
matter of time before he piches some wood and we see a you tube video of wood flying. Without being a total basher, he is creative. But unfortunately creativity will be something that lands him in the ER.
Posted: 5:43 pm on February 4th
http://youtube.com/watch?v=v3uFR9ANf0w
When is wood working safety month?
Posted: 5:34 pm on February 4th
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