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Inexpensive furniture woods
comments (51) January 28th, 2009 in blogs
What do you do when the prices of your favorite furniture woods, like cherry and walnut, keep going up but the economy and the money you have to spend on wood have taken a downturn? Well, I need your help to answer that question. Do you know of a good alternative to traditional (and often expensive) furniture woods? I like ash. It's widely available on the east coast, can be had for just a few dollars a board foot, isn't too hard to work, and is beautiful.
If you have a particular favorite, let me know. I'm working on an article about just this topic, and we'd like to hear from our readers. Ya'll (as we say back home in the South) are all over the country, and might know of a great, under-the-radar, wood.
You can post a response to this blog, or in this thread on our discussion forum, Knots.
And, thanks for your help.
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Posted: 6:46 pm on February 22nd
Posted: 2:23 pm on February 10th
I acquired over 500 sq ft of 3/4" thick x 5" wide solid oak. A portion of it went into an oak floor in the workbench/counter/sink area of my woodshop. The rest is being used for various furniture and cabinet projects.
Posted: 10:09 am on February 10th
Posted: 12:30 pm on February 9th
Posted: 1:20 pm on February 7th
Posted: 1:51 pm on February 6th
At another auction I bought 100 bd ft of black walnut for $65.00.
Needless to say, I am a big auction fan.
Posted: 9:29 am on February 6th
Then all you have to do is pull the pallets apart and salvage the good wood. Run thru the planner and biscuit join together to make furniture.
See how I am only a beginner at building furniture it is a cheap way to get expensive wood and not be so mad at yourself when you make a mistake.
Posted: 12:40 am on February 6th
I recently worked with hickory making a breakfront and it was only $2.50 ft. for 5/4 x8" pieces. Works beautifully.
Posted: 3:46 pm on February 5th
Posted: 11:08 am on February 5th
Posted: 10:30 pm on February 4th
I've helped develop a free plugin for Sketchup which takes your model and produces a cutlist and a cutting diagram for your selected material sizes. This could be used to minimize waste and maybe squeeze another project out of your precious stock. It works equally well on the free version of Sketchup as the pro version. So, total investment is $0.
You can learn more about it here http://steveracz.com/joomla/content/view/45/1/ and more info and discussion at http://lumberjocks.com/jocks/daltxguy/blog/5143
Posted: 9:05 pm on February 4th
Posted: 8:31 pm on February 4th
Here in Australia we have bulk rubbish collections, when people put there unwanted rubbish on the side of the road a couple of days before collection. There is always lots of old furniture and once I collected an old hard wood desk re glued it and French polished it then sold it on for $700 Aussie dollars. I also look for old furniture I can recycle the wood from in Charity shops and have found some good straight boards which clean up OK.
Roger
Posted: 8:22 pm on February 4th
Posted: 8:00 pm on February 4th
Posted: 7:25 pm on February 4th
Posted: 6:44 pm on February 4th
I also look for free solid wood furniture locally on craigslist or freecycle. This has yielded some nice lumber, most notable some hard maple after deconstructing a few older endtables a friend gave me a few years ago.
I've also toyed with retrieving free old pianos I've noticed in the freebie world, selling off the scrap metal internals, and deconstructing cases for furniture building. Some would say blaspheme, but if they're past the point of making usable for a reasonable price, I think it's better to bring them to a new life than burning them or chucking them in the dump - after confirming that they're not gems in the dustpile, as it were. Now - where to put them-that's the next kink in the plan to work out.
Jim in Wichita, KS
Posted: 5:49 pm on February 4th
Posted: 5:13 pm on February 4th
It's very inexpensive. I buy all of mine at Abe Hank's, 34237 Ophir Rd, Ophir, OR 97444, 541-247-7668, although there are many other sources. I don't mean to be a commercial for him, but he is a nice guy.
Posted: 2:50 pm on February 4th
Posted: 1:16 pm on February 4th
Posted: 12:53 pm on February 4th
Posted: 12:25 pm on February 4th
Also, I have several areas with decent sized trees which include oak, ash, cherry, etc. When I see a decent sized tree that needs to be harvested I will haul the log to one of the mills and trade it for rough sawn boards or have it cut for my use.
Posted: 11:54 am on February 4th
Posted: 11:37 am on February 4th
I would also like to see some ideas on storing quantities that are econimical and efficient. I have maxed out my current storage area and I'm looking for more ideas.
Posted: 11:22 am on February 4th
Posted: 11:21 am on February 4th
Pallets are another source of lumber for small projects. You just need to be aware of pulling nails or screws and be creative in how you process and use this lumber. There pallet makers who generate excessive waste and or recycle pallets for re-use. While employed at the mill I worked for I was able to accumulate numerous mis cut pallet boards that I purchased from the mill for my own use.
Sizes vary from 1/2 inch to 8/4 with widths from 3 1/2 to 12 and lengths of 4' up to 12' in cedar, walnut, oaks, ash, cherry, sycamore, and hickory. Most of this material sits in my yard on sticks until I decide to use it.
Posted: 11:09 am on February 4th
Granted, some of the wood is fireplace material, but I have found oak, mahogony, ash, and other assorted imported woods. All for just being observant. I built a workbench entirely from old flats.
tache
Posted: 11:02 am on February 4th
Again, it is not the norm, but there is something very rewarding for me knowing that I am helping to keep waste out of the landfills. I have heard that 75% of landfills are made up of construction debris. I actually prefer NOT to use exotic woods, or anything I have to pay much for when there is such an abundance of free material at my disposal.
I think the "alternative to traditional furniture woods" is not only at looking at different, eco-friendly materials, but design work that incorporates reclaimed/re-purposed materials.
Posted: 10:51 am on February 4th
On your request for uses of a favourite hardwood, I love using ash, white ash not black ash which is found more in Northern Ontario. I can stain white ash to look indentical to oak and I prefer the tighter grain that ash has. Occasionaly you will find some pieces with distict graining, flames, curls and ribbons, which really add character to samll projects. It is an easy wood to work with hand tools and power tools. It is a very common hardwood in my area, Southern Ontario, and readily available at local mills from highway expansion projects.
Posted: 10:49 am on February 4th
Douglas Fir
White Ash
Birch
African Mahogany (~1/2 the price of Honduras)
Aspen
Soft Maple
Hard Maple (usually a bit more expensive than the others, but still far cheaper than black cherry or black walnut)
Alder
Poplar (for painted or hidden project parts)
These are all a couple dollars a board foot at a "regular" hardwood supplier (at least around here), and the list provides enough contrast and workability to be very useful in furniture making. Also, I don't use much oak, but it is quite affordable also around here.
Posted: 10:42 am on February 4th
Posted: 7:56 am on February 4th
I have also found that talking to the local power company/tree trimming companies is very helpful. The tree trimming crews are more than glad to get rid of some of the bigger pieces. Most of the time, if they are working in the area of where I live, they will stop by in the afternoon and deliver it for free. A great source for mulch too. This has been a really good source of aspen, red elm, alder, sassafras, oak and hickory, just to name a few. Also, after ice/snow storms in the winter and thunderstorms in the summer, many trees will be blown over on the power lines, and again, these guys are more than happy to get rid of the logs. I also get and use alot of cedar this way too.
I spent a couple of hundred dollars and bought a chain saw mill, and rough out alot of logs into dementional lumber. I also spent another $75 and bought a really high quality resaw blade for my 18" bandsaw, and made a sled and resaw some of the smaller logs, and also most of the lumber that I mill out with my chain saw mill. It takes a little time, but I have a large supply of lumber for only pennies.
I have also found that going to funiture mills is a very good way to get alot of smaller scraps. They are usually glad to get rid of it, and even load my truck for me. I have found that pallets are a good way to get hard wood lumber as well.
I will at times take a weekend ride out in the rural area where I live and find old barns and sheds that are falling down and many times the owners are glad to give me all that I want. There are alot of good lumber in many of the sheds, and the old barns are a gold mine. I have gotten ALOT of cheasnut this way. I will bring the larger pieces to my shop and resaw them down to usable sizes. Out of 2 large beams alone, I built a new bedroom suite for my daughter out of walnut. Also, I have found that an engine hoist ($200) works great to handle many of the larger pieces and acts as a "hoist."
Posted: 7:48 am on February 4th
Posted: 7:33 am on February 4th
Posted: 7:29 am on February 4th
Just the other day I got some beautiful Maple with curling and some birdseye in it for $2.50 bf and most boards were 8" and wider! my best one was quartersawn oak for $1.00 bf
Posted: 7:24 am on February 4th
Posted: 7:12 am on February 4th
I was able to make a beautiful white pine bookcase for my shop books with curb wood, and I did not even lose the pumpkin color of what had been rough, old basement shelves.
Other good sources for outdoor projects are discarded redwood siding and cedar fences. Cedar 2x4s make into excellent legs and rails for tables and the 1x3 or 1x4 slats make excellent table tops. These have resulted in a redwood mailbox on the front of our home, a large cedar flower planter box, a cedar table to winter-over flowers in the basement, and a redwood table for my small gas grill.
Be sure to have an understanding spouse ("Wait, honey while I turn around and pick up those boards...") and permission from the residence where you are salvaging lumber.
Ed Smith
Green Bay WI
Posted: 6:54 am on February 4th
The folks generally operate based on a charge to cut the tree down, and or if the tree is down, charge the land owner a fee to haul it away, or perhaps slab the trunk and share 1/2 the wood with the owner and charge him a fee to do this- Nerveless, a great source of turning blanks, rough swan lumber etc. Just goggle - portable saw mills, call the company and get a list of owners by zip- you're then in business. Tom
Posted: 6:23 am on February 4th
Posted: 7:05 pm on February 3rd
Whenever I see wood that may be free, I stop and look it over to see if I can use it. When appropriate, I ask permission. Then I go home and get my pickup and come back and truck it home. I've gotten pallets from drug stores, doors, shelves, old and solid wood furniture. I disassemble, sort and store the wood.
I also have a gadget to attach to my chain saw that allows me to cut logs lengthwise and have been able to get trees that are being taken down. Last year, I got a beautiful black cherry trunk about thirty feet long and two and a half feet in diameter. I cut it into five foot lengths and used green end sealer on the end grain and it is sitting in my driveway for to be cut into boards next summer, first split in half and then quarters with the chain saw and then taken to the band saw.
Good luck to all of you.
Posted: 6:26 pm on February 3rd
I also had great success in the dumpster behind a large mill work company in Connecticut. They allowed me to dumpster dive and you can be really surprised what you can find. Great sizes for any turned bowl, etc, plus table leg stock.
Posted: 4:49 pm on February 3rd
Thanks for all the comments so far. You've got some great ideas on "out of the ordinary" ways to get lumber, and I'm thinking that we'll talk about that too. But I'd love to hear about specific woods that you've used to make furniture. It seems that hardwoods grown locally can be had for a steal, and that many of them (aspen, red elm, alder, sassafras, to name a few) make for beautiful furniture. So let me know about those specific woods too.
Posted: 4:11 pm on February 3rd
Posted: 4:07 pm on February 3rd
Simply get the lumber and sticker it in your shed or garage for a few months to get the moisture content under control. I use local walnut and cypress for furniture here in Louisiana. Both are easy to work with. Although red and white oak is also plentiful here, I'm not a big fan since it's harder to work.
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