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comments (50) February 24th, 2010 in blogs
Last week I was working with our Web folks and Tony O’Malley on our big mudroom build-off against our colleagues at Fine Homebuilding. During the process I was helping Tony prefinish some material for his project. We used Minwax Wipe-On Poly, and I loved it. Typically, I wipe on a home-made brew of thinned down polyurethane on my projects (about 2 parts thinner to 3 parts poly). My mix dries fast and builds to a nice sheen, but the Minwax has all the qualities of my brew without the chemistry.
It goes on fast with a clean cotton cloth or sturdy shop towel and is ready to recoat in a couple hours. The manufacturer recommends sanding between coats with 220-grit paper, fine steel wool, or a fine abrasive pad, but this isn’t always necessary because the stuff dries so fast. I’d recommend feeling the surface for dust nibs. If you find any, go ahead and sand and then remove the detritus; if you don’t find nibs, I think it’s safe to apply the next coat without sanding.
If you’ve had any trouble with finishing, this is a great way to put a nice finish on your furniture without worrying about drips and runs. I used the gloss version of the product. With it, you can build to the luster you want by simply wiping on additional coats. When you’re done, apply some paste wax and you’ll have a durable, nice-looking finish without the hassle.
Anyone want to buy some measuring cups?
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Posted: 3:39 pm on June 13th
I needed to refinish a red oak bed frame. I wanted to keep the finish light in color. And I also wanted a very smooth but moderate gloss in-the-wood look. I also wanted to be done with the project in less than two weeks and I wanted a technique that matched by low tech, inexperienced skill level.
I read pretty much every article posted on FineWoodworking about finishes and finishing techniques twice. I followed up on the different opinions in several articles posted here and the advice of my brother who has a lot of wood working experience (see links below) by buying a 6'x4" length of red oak to use as a test bed. I sanded both sides well with 220-P grit. On one side I put a coat of Zinsser Seal Coat diluted to a one pound cut with denatured alcohol (1:1 since Seal Coat is a 2 lb cut out of the can). This was my brother's advice for use on a ringporous wood like oak. This was applied very thinly with a home-made french polishing cloth. Once this dried, I sanded lightly with a gray synthetic steel wool pad (rated as 000 or Fine) and vacuumed all dust away and then wiped with a clean, soft cloth. Then I divided the board into 3 2' sections with masking tape. I now had 6 test areas. To each side, I applied three different finishes. Minwax wipe-on poly gloss, and 3:2:1 and 2:2:2 homemade varnishes made by thoroughly blending mineral spirits:fast-drying Minwax gloss poly:Rockler pure tung oil. The original article for 3:2:1 recommended linseed oil but I did not like the strong smell so I opted for Tung oil. The homemade blends were sanded in as the video instructs and then wiped off repeatedly with a clean cloth till no more bleeding was seen. The unshellacked side had a lot more bleeding out. The Minwax wipe-on poly was applied with a french polishing cloth set up and then wiped off with a clean cloth to leave a thin coat. After 48 hours drying, every section got a light sanding with first 220-P, then 400-P and finally 600-P wet/dry moistened with mineral spirits. After sanding, all dust was vacuumed off and then the surface wiped clean with a soft cloth. I repeated this three times.
The results are in: Minwax wipe-on poly is the hands down winner. Of the two sections done with the Minwax, the shellacked side stayed lighter in color and helped seal the grainier sections. All sections looked better with the Sealcoat, but the 3:2:1 was a real dud on red oak. The finish looked dull and lifeless and the oil seemed to spot out. The 2:2:2 was somewhat better but also gave an uneven finish and took a lot longer to dry. It would need many more than 3 coats to look decent. I have now applied the winning finish to the bed frame. After one coat of the Sealcoat and three coats of the wipe-on poly, the bed looks great - the finish has a sheen but not a high gloss. It has an in-the-wood look, not a film. It is silky smooth to the touch and still quite light in color with a definite warm, red tone. I am going to do one more coat of the wipe-on poly and finish with a coat of Renaissance wax (after I test it on my test board.) I will write back with the final results.
If you are working with cherry or another type of wood, you may see different results since the basic structure of the wood is different. I recommend a test board for an important project to be sure you are satisfied with the results. You will feel less stressed out if you know for sure the kind of look your chosen finish will have.
LINKS:
http://www.finewoodworking.com/subscription/skillsandtechniques/skillsandtechniquesarticle.aspx?id=34065
http://www.finewoodworking.com/Materials/MaterialsPDF.aspx?id=24153
http://www.finewoodworking.com/fwnpdf/011207051.pdf
http://www.finewoodworking.com/SkillsAndTechniques/SkillsAndTechniquesPDF.aspx?id=30593
http://www.finewoodworking.com/Materials/MaterialsArticle.aspx?id=28833
Posted: 3:34 pm on June 13th
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Posted: 8:10 am on March 19th
Has anyone found a cure for this?
Glendo.
Posted: 11:59 pm on March 6th
I miss using Lacquers but with all of the environmental regulations it's hard to find. So no I'm a wipe on finisher. I tried oils, urethanes, shellac and varnishes. They all work great. Just remember to wipe once and let it be.
Art Paltz
Posted: 5:11 pm on March 5th
I typically sand with 320 grit after each two coats for the first four (or six) coats.
Finally, I polish it with a very fine abrasive pad (bought at an auto parts store) using the wipe-on poly as a lubricant. After polishing with the pad I wipe the poly off with blue shop towels. I clean the pad in mineral spirits and reuse it many times. This gives a very smooth surface with little fuss and time.
Sometimes I polish it further with wax using a fine polishing pad.
Posted: 8:57 pm on March 4th
Posted: 3:59 pm on March 4th
Posted: 10:46 am on March 4th
I normally apply 3-4 coats of Satin, depending on the look I want.
I don't think there's any difference in protection between this and undiluted polyurethane, this just builds slower because it is diluted.
I'm planning to experiment with applying full-strength polyurethan with an abrasive pad, as Dresdner suggests, to replace this product.
Posted: 10:05 am on March 4th
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The cart is oak and oak plywood, and I put on 3 coats of the finish, sanding after the first coat with 220 and then used 400 grit after the second and third. I ended up with 3 coats of paste wax.
I'm really happy with the results. This is a great product.
Walt
Posted: 9:24 am on March 4th
As a final step, I run it out with rottenstone mixed with water. It really make for a nice smooth surface. I then add a thin coat of Renaissance wax, which seems to help with the fingerprints.
Posted: 12:06 am on March 4th
I also wipe on the first couple of coats, thereafter I use 300 grit, then 400 wet/dry and sometimes up to 600 wet/dry sandpaper on a small block to "sand in" the finish. I keep the sandpaper wet with wiping varnish and sand lightly after wiping on. If necessary I'll wipe off excess but this yields an incredibly smooth finish with very little extra effort. Borrowed the technique from instructions on applying a wipe on finish at back of Jeff Miller's Beds book (Taunton Press). After the last coat (usually 5 or 6) I apply a little Briwax with 0000 steel wool to make it extra smooth to the touch. Easy, quick, flawless,looks and feels great.
Posted: 7:00 pm on March 3rd
Posted: 6:40 pm on March 3rd
Posted: 6:18 pm on March 3rd
I am a terrible finisher and always promised myself I'd learn to do it right. Once I discovered wiping varnishes, I was able to break that promise and still feel good about my results.
Posted: 5:37 pm on March 3rd
Posted: 11:18 am on March 3rd
Posted: 11:17 am on March 3rd
Posted: 11:16 am on March 3rd
Is this an inherent problem with polyurethane that should indicate it perhaps isn't appropriate for fine furniture, or was I just to agressive in sanding?
Posted: 10:17 am on March 3rd
Chuck
Posted: 10:07 am on March 3rd
I have been having difficulty locating the product lately and learned that the federal government is basically regulating it out of existance because of more stringent VOC standards. You would thing they would have more important issues to deal with. Water based poly doesn't come close to revealing the inherent beauty of the woodgrain.
Posted: 10:07 am on March 3rd
One difficulty I am having is finding the product - it seems that it is being regulated out of use by the federal government. You would thing they would have more important issues to deal with. Water based poly does not come close to revealing the inherent beauty of the wood grain.
Posted: 9:50 am on March 3rd
You can make the project as shiney as you like or dull. I prefer shiny surfaces as they don't always look dusty when cleaned.
Joe
Posted: 9:33 am on March 3rd
For projects that don't require polyurethane protection, I still prefer to use shellac. While it is a bit more trouble (e.g. diluting the Bullseye mixture with some denatured alcohol) it also dries in just a couple of hours thereby allowing the application of multiple coats in a single day. It produces a very acceptable shiny finish and allows for easy re-touching should the need arise.
Posted: 9:21 am on March 3rd
Posted: 9:20 am on March 3rd
Posted: 9:00 am on March 3rd
I don't use it on higher quality furniture, for that I use polymerised tung oil.
I find the tung oil produces a sheen that fits better with the Arts and Crafts furniture I often make.
For the tung oil finish I seal the wood with tung oil sealer, then mix polymerised tung oil 50/50 with tung oil sealer to reduce the gloss, and make application easier.
5 or 6 coats followed by a careful sanding with 600 grit paper, and a couple of coats of paste wax, yields an easy to apply finish that looks period for the furniture I make.
Regards, Rod.
Posted: 8:59 am on March 3rd
Posted: 8:59 am on March 3rd
Posted: 8:49 am on March 3rd
Geoff
Posted: 8:37 am on March 3rd
Posted: 8:14 am on March 3rd
Posted: 8:00 am on March 3rd
Posted: 7:59 am on March 3rd
For furniture I give to family or sell, I put only six to eight coats since it goes on fast and dries quickly.
At my church, the men make faith chests that are given to all children at baptism. I have this varnish used because the rookies of varnishing can do a great job coating the wood. We only do three coats except for the red oak lid that has four.
Posted: 7:56 am on March 3rd
Posted: 7:53 am on March 3rd
I most recently used it while refinishing some 100 year old windows. The old varnish had puddled from a century of direct sunlight. I removed the lower window but left the upper window (never designed to move in this case) casing, apron, etc in place.
I stripped the old varnish using paper towels soaked in denatured alcohol covered with saran wrap. Let soften for 30 minutes and it came right off with a putty knife.
The point of all this was that I was able to brush the wipe-on poly on the vertical window casing with no drips or sags! Very nice to work, reasonably priced with and available at your local BORG. Life is good.
Posted: 7:48 am on March 3rd
It was nearly foolproof for applying without runs, it required no expensive equipment, and cleanup was easy. It requires several coats obviously due to the nature of the product, but they seem to dry relatively fast due to the thinner coats.
As a business, it was necessary to move on to the line of lacquers for rapid production to insure profit. But I still recommend the Minwax Wipe on Poly for any of the beginning woodworkers. It is readily available without mail order, easy to apply, inexpensive, no chemistry is involved, and easy to clean up.
I find it interesting to observe the behavior of woodworkers, because I will offer this advice and then find out they tried something else with great frustration. When asked why they didn't just use the Wipe on Poly as I suggested, they most often tell they didn't think that the answer could be that simple.
Ironically, this is most often the "secret" to woodworking. It is that simple.
Posted: 6:41 am on March 3rd
But I just do not like paying the price for a commercial product when it can be made simply by eyeballing a 50:50 mix, which is what I generally use. The varnish can be diluted with either mineral spirits or naphtha depending on the drying speed that is desired.
As a side benefit, I have found that diluting the concentrated poly into a wiping varnish helps to prevent it from skimming over due to oxygen exposure.
Posted: 6:28 am on March 3rd
Posted: 3:31 am on March 3rd
I cannot seem to find a decent product for filling.
Posted: 12:01 am on March 3rd
Or...Would I be better off doing a spray on finish for the look and speed?
Thanks for any experienced &/or expert feedback.
Dave
Posted: 10:03 pm on March 2nd
Want a wipe on finish that is really quick. Use 50% Sherman-Williams fast dry gloss varnish, or any other fast dry varnish, mixed with 50% Naptha. Start wiping it on in the back and by the time you reach the front of the project the back is already dry. No dust, dirt or anything else to worry about. Plain paper towels work fine as an applicator, single sheet folded into a rectangle or square whatever you prefer. Use a small squeeze bottle to apply. If the dry time is too fast use less naptha or mineral spirits. Plain ordinary Naptha, not the High Flash too much sulphur in it.
You can re coat in an hour. 3 coats in a day. I have re-coated in as quick as 10 minutes.
Posted: 10:13 am on February 28th
John
Posted: 11:08 pm on February 27th
Posted: 6:36 pm on February 26th
On the contrary, FWW did an article back in 2005:
SUMMARY REVIEW
The author tested 15 wipe-on finishes, including a water-based finish and both tung-oil and linseed-oil-based finishes. Pure boiled linseed oil and Minwax Fast-Drying Polyurethane, a brushing finish, were added for comparison. All the finishes were tested on pieces of red-oak plywood cut from the same sheet. All but two of the finishes tested fared well, but the Minwax Wipe-On Poly was particularly impressive, drying in three hours to a light satin sheen and offering excellent water resistance. It was the author's choice for Best Overall and as the least expensive finish tested ($5.95 per quart), Best Value as well.
You can read the article here:
http://www.finewoodworking.com/Materials/MaterialsPDF.aspx?id=24153
Posted: 5:32 pm on February 26th
Posted: 1:08 pm on February 26th
Posted: 12:55 am on February 26th
If you want an even smoother high quality finish, try drying under an Infrared heater (mine is on the ceiling about 5 feet from the top of my work bench. It seems to smooth out the product even more and reduce slightly drying times. I never attempt to recoat in less than 3.5-4 hours, though.
Don
Posted: 10:44 am on February 25th
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