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Visit the Live Video page Thurs., Nov. 12 at 1:30 p.m. Watch two FW staffers duke it out to find the fastest method for getting a finish-ready surface. now.
UPDATE: Visit the Live Video page now. Streaming begins at 1:30 p.m. EST. Can’t make it live? Don’t worry, we’ll record the event for on-demand playback.
Fine Woodworking is launching a first-of-its kind live streaming video event on Thurs., Nov. 12 at 1:30 p.m. EST. Watch two FW staffers duke it out to see which method is faster for getting a finish-ready surface: magazine editor Asa Christiana with power sanders v. art director Michael Pekovich with hand planes.
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Kari Hultman of the Village Carpenter blog will cover the event via Twitter.
There will also be a live studio audience of woodworkers like you, and you can chat live with our editors through the live video interace.
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Great video. Tips and tricks very usefull
Great Idea guys...... I hope its just the start!
What is the best way to handle maple(hard), hand or power? I have tried hand plane.... cheap planes, seem to be sharp, with just a hair of the blade sticking out the bottom...... the thing stops solid.
I was surprised that the plane outperformed the sander on this small project. Gives me a reason to tune-up the seven old users on my shelf.
Change of spice...great job.
I put my money on the plane, but personally I will sand when it comes to finishing my honey-do-list.
glad you saved the event so we could see later. sound quality was a little challenging - but otherwise interesting.
Very cool Smackdown...
I am not sure if I am watching it live though, given that it was supposedly happening this afternoon.
It was great to hear all of the great tips on working with hand tools. I am really just learning how to work with planes, keep them sharp, etc., so this was a great way to get some tips.
I am not sure if the drawing is over but I would like to be entered if possible... I guess you have my email address as I am a subscriber to both online and mag.
Thanks for all the great content!
Great live feed. I don't have much exposure to the hand tools. But I have found that when I reach for them there is really no other reasonable solution to the job at hand. My first use of a plane was to level my workbench. The chisels are never far from reach either.
Fantastic idea,even although my money was on the plane it was interesting to see how both techniques fared against each other.
Not really a contest in my mind,more a comparison.
Now that the shootout is over, my comments. 1. Good show. 2.As to the winner, we can't really see the finished product. Based upon time, I consider it a tie. Asa probably did way more sanding than necessary, as many of us do. We keep sanding long after that grit is done. I am not a professional and have no interst in being one. I use both planes and sandpaper depending on the need. But, in my opinion 90% of the non-professionals could do what Asa did and 90% of the non-professional could not do what Mike did. I know those that do the planing say it is easy because for them it is easy, but that does not mean everybody.
nobody is talking about how the work will take a finish. I can't imagine that cherry sanded to 220 grit will look anything like the hand planed surfaces.
A great idea. Thanks for the demonstrations. Several good tips presented.
How interviewing time is taken in to account ?. Time taken each station are may not be same!
Since both of these fellows have experience with each others' approaches, it'd be interesting to hear them factor in all the ancillary costs (initially learning techniques, trips to the store to buy sandpaper, tool maintenance and longevity, shop clean-up) in their comparison.
Also, I bet a hybrid approach (some hand planing & some machine sanding) may offer the most speed & versatility. For example, I prefer hand planing, but when cleaning up an exterior porch floor prior to repainting, I don't risk damaging a hand plane! Machine sanding with coarse grit gives me a paintable surface with no worries about hitting nail heads or bits of grit embedded in the old paint!
Just the amount of noise is enough to make me use hand planes!
The live show is interesting and with some refinements in the presentation will be a good mode for special demo situations. Also, one quick question regarding plane sharpening technique. I sharpen with waterstones and am wondering about the jig used to set the 25 degree angle in the honing guide. I have trouble with repeatability on that. Is Mike's jig set for blade projection or angle? Are there any other tricks to getting the sharpening angle flat on the sharpening stone for maximum sharpening effect? Thanks for all your efforts and a job well done to all involved!
lets go hand planes!!!
I agree, this is a good intro to hand tools. After all of these years I still don't know enough about planes.
Is this going to be available to watch at a later time?
thanks for the show
Better than watching paint dry! My first time watching such an event and I'm all for it!
This it a good intro for anyone looking at handplanes and hand tools in general. Thanks for the show.
pretty cool event. I am home with "swine flu" and this is helping pass the time. I am curious about removing swirl marks left by the random orbit sander.
Really enjoying this. I missed the first 20 minutes. Are there any plans to do other topics?
Hand planes will win of course!
Are you going to do another event like this?
Enter me in your contest - Thanks
I finally feel like I could like sports.
Everything isn't perfect, but I admire their efforts and creativity. Asa and Mike are great!
This is a good idea - hope we see more of the live feeds in the future.
This where we register to win?
Unfortunately, the event is a mess. I understand that the peoples involved are not professional audio-visual technicians, and that the production equipement is minimal. But a simple rehearsal would have enabled you to spot all the main problems and correct them easily.
- The commentator is not careful with his mike. He puts it too close to its own mouth, and too far from the others mouth.
- The commentator moves too much, it is hard for the cameraman to follow him.
- We do not see what is happening. The camera is too far most of the time and too close when peoples are moving around.
- It seems as if part of the sound is piked up by the cameras built in mikes, since the ambiant sound changes when you switch cameras. This is useless when the commentator has a mike. It just add extra noise.
And the format is not good for that type of demonstrations. There are a lot of people around Mike that distract him while it is not the case for Asa. And the commentator spends a lot more time with Mike than with Asa. That tips the balance a lot.
Mike and Asa are great. All in all, this would have been great if it had been done in you regular video format.
This show is interesting, but a little better camera work would show more detail of what each woodworker is doing in better detail. The long shots just don't show much.
No video playing at all now.Bad conection from twiter i think.
Good time - informative!
Excellent Coverage !
I have always cherished the sound and feel of using a hand plane. Fun contest!
I am enjoying this ...thanks
Lie Nielson vs Dewalt hmmmm.
This is pretty cool. It's interesting to see the contrast between the two techniques.
Great casting!! GO HAND TOOLS!!
I wish i could see the show without breaks
Pretty fun. More interesting than I thought! Go hand tools! And enter me in the drawing!
Would be nice to see more of these. Its cool
Hand plane is going to win.
Enjoyed video. I generally use both, ending with the planer
I am rooting for Michael and the hand tools. Enter me into the drawing. Besides notice how Michael can talk to someone and Asa is all alone.
Comment to enter drawing...
I don't think a hand sander is the proper comparison to a handplane. A power jointer would be the correct power tool. I agree with other commenters that speed is not the issue in Fine Woodworking. It is using the proper tool for the job at hand.
Hi folks, there will be replays once the live event ends today. -Gina, FineWoodworking.com
I'm sorry, but this magazine seems to have declined in quality of presentation. This "competition" feels like it's going to be about a comparison of two distinctly different processes. One is not better than the other and speed is not to be considered in the words "Fine Woodworking".
This is an accident waiting to happen. I am really surprised you are showing this. The leverage of a sheet of plywood will tear this off very easily.
There are many tome zones if you go around the world!
How will you distribute this to international customers/members?
Whichever one turns out to be faster, I already know which method will leave my lungs in better shape.
routerrat: Tune in on Tuesday and see how they compare and regardless--this IS the first effort of this kind for FW.
I think that most regular plane users keep their planes sharp and fairly ready to go out of the handmade tool box. That being said, outside of sharpening the blade I'd bet that more regular plane users can set it up pretty darn quick. If you would want to include sharpening of the blade than I suppose that you would have to include making the sandpaper.
I think that FWW will set up the contest as fairly as possible - don't you?
Can't wait for the 12th!
After spending the last 17 years in the Army and never living anywhere for more than three years, I have come to appreciate having a small collection of well-maintained (thanks to my WorkSharp), quality hand tools. My current project is a greenland style kayak paddle. Nearly all of the work has been done in my present transient quarters (apologies to housekeeping). Working in reverse from a classical apprenticeship, I started out with almost nothing but power tools and graduated to hand tools as I often have very limited work space.
For me its not as much about large scale production as it is about taking pleasure in working with my hands to transform lumber into useful, attractive items.
BTW, I really liked the recent article on shaping wood with hand tools. SDG
MAJ Charles Fisher, ILE class 09-003, Ft. Belvoir, VA
Will the competition include the time to hook the sander up to a vacuum and install sandpaper and the time to sharpen a plane blade and set up a plane? If not, isn't it an unfair competition? Sanders set up in seconds and planes in minutes. That should be factored into the contest.
"Fine Woodworking is launching a first-of-its kind live streaming video event"
Technically "first-of-its kind" is not true. Shopsmith aired, on line, what they called "Sawdust Sessions" with Nick Engler via streaming video for a couple of years ending just last year. They can still be accessed on the Shopsmith web site and some on Youtube. Just FYI.
oldewood: You can get the highlights in an article in an upcoming issue of the magazine. We'll also put together a video highlight reel. We may rebroadcast the whole thing later as well. Stay tuned and kudos for your work ethic! -Gina
I think we all know who wins this one. Even a mediocre plane operator can put a decent finish on a board. Course it might take a little card scraping to finish it off. Go hand tools.
I hope it's a better show than the one you did some time ago about hand-cut vs machine-cut dovetails! The guy you had doing the hand-cut dovetails was not very proficient -- you could have asked Frank Klausz to that part -- now THAT would have been a show to see!
Maybe you can provide the showgivers' qualifications specific to the task at hand before I can get too interested.
Sounds like great fun! Too bad it's during the workday, you know, when most people work and can't watch 'live streaming video'. Well, maybe I could, but then I'll get fired. You are going to post it later, right?
Good point Randy Klein... Yes Eastern Standard Time. Thanks.
Is that 1:30 EST?
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